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post Sep 3, 2006 - 7:24 PM
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ok. i have an st and i dont have the $ or skills to do the 3s, so i want to either swap in a 4agze or turbo my 7a. i just wanted everyones input or opinions on wut to do. also, would a 4agze swap have the same hp as a 7afte? thx.

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post Sep 3, 2006 - 7:47 PM
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7afte is going to be as much work or more (rebuilt bottom end, custom header/downpipe, piping for tmic or fmic, a/f management, oil and water lines, etc.) than a 4agze. there is a good amount of aftermarket support for the 4a, and you'll probably get more reliable hp out of it.

as for hp, how close the numbers would be depends on too many turbo variables (what kind, boost pressure, eng managment, etc) to say. if you were to go big and run 9-10 lbs you could put up big numbers, but you'll need a huge amount of other engine upgrades too.

i vote 4agze.


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post Sep 3, 2006 - 8:04 PM
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QUOTE(uberschall @ Sep 3, 2006 - 5:47 PM) [snapback]475872[/snapback]

7afte is going to be as much work or more (rebuilt bottom end, custom header/downpipe, piping for tmic or fmic, a/f management, oil and water lines, etc.) than a 4agze. there is a good amount of aftermarket support for the 4a, and you'll probably get more reliable hp out of it.

as for hp, how close the numbers would be depends on too many turbo variables (what kind, boost pressure, eng managment, etc) to say. if you were to go big and run 9-10 lbs you could put up big numbers, but you'll need a huge amount of other engine upgrades too.

i vote 4agze.


ok doing a 7afte is no where near as hard a a full swap

for one you can run stock internals on 7afe and boost go look at the how to sections is covers a 7afte build you are right on the fact that the 4agze is more reiable for boost application but thats exactly what it was built for.

ive done the 7afte and a 7agte builds

in the end it comes down to your hp goals and what the car is used for track,drag or just DD


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Posts in this topic
- hashmaster52   7afte or 4agze?   Sep 3, 2006 - 7:24 PM
- - uberschall   7afte is going to be as much work or more (rebuilt...   Sep 3, 2006 - 7:47 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(uberschall @ Sep 3, 2006 - 5:4...   Sep 3, 2006 - 8:04 PM
|- - ExSane   QUOTE(nik @ Sep 3, 2006 - 8:04 PM) 4...   Sep 4, 2006 - 12:48 AM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(ExSane @ Sep 3, 2006 - 10:48 P...   Sep 5, 2006 - 2:15 AM
|- - OOBE   Too much E-bay. In terms of manifold, do what you...   Sep 11, 2006 - 11:30 PM
- - hashmaster52   well when i was searching, i read that the pistons...   Sep 3, 2006 - 9:28 PM
- - j0e_p3t   what kinda condition is your 7a in?   Sep 3, 2006 - 9:49 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Sep 3, 2006 - 9:49 P...   Sep 3, 2006 - 10:15 PM
- - Bitter   as long as you take it easy and make sure your oil...   Sep 3, 2006 - 10:43 PM
- - hashmaster52   how long u think the motor will last with the turb...   Sep 3, 2006 - 11:57 PM
|- - airfron   QUOTE(hashmaster52 @ Sep 3, 2006 - 9...   Sep 4, 2006 - 1:52 AM
- - j0e_p3t   here's a site that someone posted a while back...   Sep 4, 2006 - 2:02 AM
|- - ExSane   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Sep 4, 2006 - 2:02 A...   Sep 4, 2006 - 2:07 AM
- - nik   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Sep 4, 2006 - 12:02 ...   Sep 5, 2006 - 2:23 PM
- - uberschall   if you're experienced, you could turbo a vespa...   Sep 5, 2006 - 11:50 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(uberschall @ Sep 5, 2006 - 11...   Sep 6, 2006 - 1:16 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   if u want a spirited street car 4agze if u want mo...   Sep 6, 2006 - 7:59 AM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Sep 6, 2006 - 5...   Sep 6, 2006 - 10:39 PM
- - celica3000   check my celica is turbo kit (tsi) for corrola yo...   Sep 6, 2006 - 1:14 PM
- - NuclearHappineS   'stock for stock (block wise). ' I never ...   Sep 11, 2006 - 6:19 AM
- - WH95TE   What kind of numbers do you put down? and how much...   Sep 11, 2006 - 11:55 PM
- - OOBE   I have never dynoed it or tuned it...the cost was ...   Sep 12, 2006 - 12:16 AM
- - WH95TE   Get it on a dyno! Im interested   Sep 12, 2006 - 3:13 AM
- - Kwanza26   4AGZE because it's stronger and more buildable...   Sep 12, 2006 - 10:36 AM
- - OOBE   ^WORD. [/END OF THREAD].   Sep 12, 2006 - 12:59 PM


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