7afte or 4agze? Options

[hashmaster52]

ok. i have an st and i dont have the $ or skills to do the 3s, so i want to either swap in a 4agze or turbo my 7a. i just wanted everyones input or opinions on wut to do. also, would a 4agze swap have the same hp as a 7afte? thx.

This post has been edited by hashmaster52: Sep 3, 2006 - 7:24 PM

[uberschall]

if you're experienced, you could turbo a vespa reliably. if you're not, you either f#ck it up and it will never run right (or worse yet, never run), or you pay someone else to do it. anyone who has enough $$$ to have a 7afe turboed by a pro that doesn't go for a better engine instead, well....there's nothing anyone could have said that would have helped.

i gather that the candidate, while enthusiastic, is much like the rest of us: limited on cash, facilities, and experience in this venue, but looking for more hp.

you're never going to get reliability and power out of a turboed 7a unless you really know what you're doing, or have a way to get all the custom work and tuning done right. period. yes, it can be done...but not without some serious work. no, you technically never have to crack the head to bung a turbo setup on a car. seen it done, hell, i helped. never ran well and ate sh#t a month after completion.

sorry, i just don't think putting a turbo on a 140k motor that was never designed for boost is a good idea. there's no sense investing in a turbo setup if you're not going to rebuild the engine. which, if you were willing to do, is an undertaking at least on par with a full swap.

i didn't mean to piss anybody off.

This post has been edited by uberschall: Sep 6, 2006 - 9:45 AM

[hashmaster52]

if you're experienced, you could turbo a vespa reliably. if you're not, you either f#ck it up and it will never run right (or worse yet, never run), or you pay someone else to do it. anyone who has enough $$$ to have a 7afe turboed by a pro that doesn't go for a better engine instead, well....there's nothing anyone could have said that would have helped.

i gather that the candidate, while enthusiastic, is much like the rest of us: limited on cash, facilities, and experience in this venue, but looking for more hp.

you're never going to get reliability and power out of a turboed 7a unless you really know what you're doing, or have a way to get all the custom work and tuning done right. period. yes, it can be done...but not without some serious work. no, you technically never have to crack the head to bung a turbo setup on a car. seen it done, hell, i helped. never ran well and ate sh#t a month after completion.

sorry, i just don't think putting a turbo on a 140k motor that was never designed for boost is a bad idea. there's no sense investing in a turbo setup if you're not going to rebuild the engine. which, if you were willing to do, is an undertaking at least on par with a full swap.

i didn't mean to piss anybody off.

its koo. so should i just forget about getting high hp #s and jus get some bolt ons like a header and some pulleys, etc.? it would b a lil quicker right? and more reliable than if i turbo it. well thx for the input guys.