More 3sgte info, lots of reading and searching Options

[Uppitycracker]

Ok I have been reading alot about this site and searching on search engines and here is some questions I have came up with:

1. "a cheaper alternative for the ECU/Wiring situation would be to use your stock ECU to control chassis electrical functions, and an aftermarket standalone engine management system to run the engine. A new Haltech could run you $1000 to do this. A Wolf, maybe $750. Also, this will eliminate the need for some of those expensive sensors like AFM".

Does this eliminate all the rewiring? How hard are these stand alone systems to hook up? Will I not need a new wiring harness and all that anymore?

2. "stock exhaust wont bolt up to the 3S engine, so you will need a custom exhaust which accomadates the new engine."

Is this just a simple case of lining up a new pipe or does it all have to be replaced? I know I will be going to like 2.5" piping eventually but for right after the swap Im talking?

So my shopping list for the basic swap would be, the complete engine which I already have a source for, a standalone system, and all the little things like gaskets, belts, and fluids, which Im sure I just get at toyota.

[Uppitycracker]

QUOTE (abatardi @ Jul 21, 2003 - 11:38 PM)

Haltech for $1k? Hardly.. Yeah, and bring that to a tuning shop and you can expect to triple that... I paid I think $1350 for my haltech, and got it installed and dyno tuned, had my exhaust welded up and polished intercooler pipes made for about another $3k. And, by the way, that's only after the guy refunded my $1k cash because he blew cylinder 2 on me. If you install everything yourself the tuning would be like $1k. It's possible to do this as the wiring isn't hard, but getting all the ignition settings right (considering haltech supplied instructions didn't work with my engine ignition) and getting it to start is a little difficult without some diagnostic gear. - aba

Ok so the heltek is easy to wire up but requires alot of tuning? Im assuming your regular mechanic wouldnt be able to do that eh? I think there is a "tuning" shop in the area but i dont know if they deal with imports.
So to some that up it does eliminate the most the rewiring accept wiring the heltech up? and this does eliminate the wiring harness issue?

The intercooler, is it ok to leave it on top of the engine? will it fit under the hood like that? Id eventually get a new one and bring it down in front but I mean just for the first while? and the exhaust piping isnt very extensive?

Ok so for all my gear im looking at about 3000, from the prices Ive gathered from suppliers. Installation will be about 500-1000 from a guy that works at the shop I go too. Ill see if he can do my exhaust for me which Im sure he can. So if he cant get it started thats where I start to sweat and have it towed to a perfomance shop or too the shop I normally go too.


Anyways thanks for the help guys and sorry for the million more questions, I just really wanna understand this 100%.

Tim