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post Oct 8, 2006 - 5:50 PM
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This is spark plug 4


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post Oct 8, 2006 - 11:31 PM
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ive been dealing with some odd lean issues on my car the past few weeks. having a wideband in the car, really opens up your eyes. so far, i found 2 things that were affecting my a/f ratio. 1st one was that i had a fuse tap running from the ignition fuse to power my gauges and other car electronics. i added the wide band to that, and out of nowhere i started getting detonation at almost any boost level above 10psi. turns out, that your ignition fuse is what powers your injectors, fuel pump, etc.. and this was causing some type of current draw, and not giving the power the injectors needed. moved the fuse tap over to the cig lighter fuse, and that problem went away.

the other thing i found, is that i had a TINY air leak in my intake piping. i didn't even know it untill i noticed it while boost leak testing through the intake. after fixing it my a/f ratio got more rich. so you might want to look into those 2 things.

here is a pic of my plugs. its kind of old. from 5.26.06. you can see too much heat on them. this is mostly from the advanced timing in the jdm ecu's. you can also see cylinder 3 looking a lot leaner then the rest of them .

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now these next ones are from a few weeks ago, after fixing some things. you can tell they look a lot better then the 1st set. you can clearly see how plug 1 and 4 are more rich then 2 and 3. this is what im hoping to find out if the ats rail fixes. if it does, i would buy one.

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- defgeph   Spark plug #4   Oct 8, 2006 - 5:50 PM
- - ThAixGuYx2k7   thats an awesome pic. nice job man!   Oct 8, 2006 - 6:02 PM
- - LewFX   a lil extra carbon on the tip?   Oct 8, 2006 - 6:50 PM
- - Bitter   i see a little detonation there (small white speck...   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:00 PM
- - jgreening   I swear that "reading the spark plug" is...   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:07 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 8, 2006 - 7:07...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:24 PM
- - celicast3sgte   ....i know that isnt sitting ON your CAR right???   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:13 PM
- - lagos   thanks jeff! congrads, you have sings of det...   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:47 PM
- - defgeph   This pic was taken after I started the car and let...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:01 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:01 P...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:01 P...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:09 PM
- - defgeph   I'm going to give them a shot over the winter....   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:17 PM
- - presure2   did you reset your ecu after filling back up with ...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:22 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:22 ...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:23 PM
- - Bitter   also, you should only read a new plug after you...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:28 PM
- - defgeph   I highly doubt that I'm running lean. On my dy...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:38 PM
- - Bitter   i stand by what i say, that plug says hot which us...   Oct 8, 2006 - 9:00 PM
- - lagos   jeff, when u take them all out. can you take a pic...   Oct 8, 2006 - 9:45 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 8, 2006 - 10:45 PM...   Oct 8, 2006 - 11:12 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   jeff plugs dont lie thats not the best plug ive se...   Oct 8, 2006 - 10:05 PM
- - lagos   ive been dealing with some odd lean issues on my c...   Oct 8, 2006 - 11:31 PM
- - Bitter   lagos, other than being lean and doing a bit of co...   Oct 9, 2006 - 12:09 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   just pulled them when i got out of work. i also ha...   Oct 9, 2006 - 5:03 PM
- - lagos   those look really good.   Oct 9, 2006 - 5:44 PM
- - hurley97   Nice pink blanket you got there Art   Oct 9, 2006 - 8:40 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Those plugs do look very good, John. I remember a...   Oct 9, 2006 - 9:59 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Oct 9, 2006 - 9:40 ...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:08 PM
- - Bitter   it turns blue if it gets acid on it   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:26 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Oct 9, 2006 ...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:30 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i guess "reading" plugs is just old tech...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:36 PM
- - Bitter   wideband is useful, but theres alot to be gleened ...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - defgeph   My fuel rail o ring was torn on # 4. This might be...   Oct 9, 2006 - 11:32 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   what brand gas do you use? maybe thats just how it...   Oct 10, 2006 - 11:28 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 10, 2006 - 12...   Oct 10, 2006 - 11:40 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   hmm. i mean plugs normally dont lie, but in your c...   Oct 10, 2006 - 11:51 AM
- - Bitter   a bad oring could have been leaking air and leanin...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:11 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(Bitter @ Oct 10, 2006 - 1:11 P...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:19 PM
- - Bitter   what about when you're off boost and timing is...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:35 PM
- - lagos   his plug looks just like mine used to. the ground...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:45 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   but then my plugs should look the same since they ...   Oct 10, 2006 - 1:28 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 10, 2006 - 2...   Oct 10, 2006 - 5:14 PM
- - 95celgt   hey lagos, whats the normal operating voltage that...   Oct 10, 2006 - 10:06 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(95celgt @ Oct 10, 2006 - 11:06...   Oct 10, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - 95celgt   alright, thanks, just wanted to make sure:P.   Oct 10, 2006 - 10:57 PM


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