Oct 8, 2006 - 5:50 PM
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Oct 9, 2006 - 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Oct 9, 2006 - 10:59 PM) [snapback]489737[/snapback] Those plugs do look very good, John. I remember a magazine I read a while back had a great article on reading plugs, setting gap, and what temp plugs to use for what sort of applications. Pretty good article. I know its not a FI motor, but after changing spark plugs on my 5SFE you could see the white on the old ones indicating either a hot/lean motor condition. I put fresh new plugs in, and the condition looks identical. I'm quite confident that this is due to me driving 60+ miles on the highway every day last year at about 80 MPH....at those engine speeds (~4,000 RPMS) and not delivering much fuel due to a low throttle position, my best instincts told me that this causes a plug to appear relatively lean even though I'm sure the factory tune is A-OK on the motor. Unless the injectors or fuel filter are pretty clogged or theres a vacuum leak that causes a lean off-throttle condition to the fuel system, I would think that my plugs aren't a great indicator of my engine condition, no? Jeff, maybe your vacuum leak could be causing the "lean plug" appearance both at idle and at while cruising on the highway at high RPMS where fuel consumption depends more on the vacuum present at the fuel rail?? reading plugs IS very tricky because certain parts of the plug tell you different things. so maybe the white you saw, was just fine. it could also just be a problem with the brand of plug or heat range that you used. when you are cruising on the highway, you are at 14.7 afr (aka stoich). when u lift off the throttle, the car goes VERY lean. this is totally normal, and shouldn't show up on the plugs. here are some good sites for plug reading http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticles/how-to-read-plugs.html http://www.maxracesoftware.com/spark_plugs.htm This post has been edited by lagos: Oct 9, 2006 - 10:29 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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defgeph Spark plug #4 Oct 8, 2006 - 5:50 PM
ThAixGuYx2k7 thats an awesome pic. nice job man! Oct 8, 2006 - 6:02 PM
LewFX a lil extra carbon on the tip? Oct 8, 2006 - 6:50 PM
Bitter i see a little detonation there (small white speck... Oct 8, 2006 - 7:00 PM
jgreening I swear that "reading the spark plug" is... Oct 8, 2006 - 7:07 PM
Bitter QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 8, 2006 - 7:07... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:24 PM
celicast3sgte ....i know that isnt sitting ON your CAR right??? Oct 8, 2006 - 7:13 PM
lagos thanks jeff!
congrads, you have sings of det... Oct 8, 2006 - 7:47 PM
defgeph This pic was taken after I started the car and let... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:01 PM
presure2 QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:01 P... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:10 PM
lagos QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:01 P... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:09 PM
defgeph I'm going to give them a shot over the winter.... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:17 PM
presure2 did you reset your ecu after filling back up with ... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:22 PM
defgeph QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:22 ... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:23 PM
Bitter also, you should only read a new plug after you... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:28 PM
defgeph I highly doubt that I'm running lean. On my dy... Oct 8, 2006 - 8:38 PM
Bitter i stand by what i say, that plug says hot which us... Oct 8, 2006 - 9:00 PM
lagos jeff, when u take them all out. can you take a pic... Oct 8, 2006 - 9:45 PM
defgeph QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 8, 2006 - 10:45 PM... Oct 8, 2006 - 11:12 PM
x_itchy_b_x jeff plugs dont lie thats not the best plug ive se... Oct 8, 2006 - 10:05 PM
lagos ive been dealing with some odd lean issues on my c... Oct 8, 2006 - 11:31 PM
Bitter lagos, other than being lean and doing a bit of co... Oct 9, 2006 - 12:09 AM
x_itchy_b_x just pulled them when i got out of work. i also ha... Oct 9, 2006 - 5:03 PM
lagos those look really good. Oct 9, 2006 - 5:44 PM
hurley97 Nice pink blanket you got there Art Oct 9, 2006 - 8:40 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner Those plugs do look very good, John.
I remember a... Oct 9, 2006 - 9:59 PM
lagos QUOTE(hurley97 @ Oct 9, 2006 - 9:40 ... Oct 9, 2006 - 10:08 PM
Bitter it turns blue if it gets acid on it Oct 9, 2006 - 10:26 PM
x_itchy_b_x i guess "reading" plugs is just old tech... Oct 9, 2006 - 10:36 PM
Bitter wideband is useful, but theres alot to be gleened ... Oct 9, 2006 - 10:55 PM
defgeph My fuel rail o ring was torn on # 4. This might be... Oct 9, 2006 - 11:32 PM
x_itchy_b_x what brand gas do you use? maybe thats just how it... Oct 10, 2006 - 11:28 AM
defgeph QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 10, 2006 - 12... Oct 10, 2006 - 11:40 AM
x_itchy_b_x hmm. i mean plugs normally dont lie, but in your c... Oct 10, 2006 - 11:51 AM
Bitter a bad oring could have been leaking air and leanin... Oct 10, 2006 - 12:11 PM
x_itchy_b_x QUOTE(Bitter @ Oct 10, 2006 - 1:11 P... Oct 10, 2006 - 12:19 PM
Bitter what about when you're off boost and timing is... Oct 10, 2006 - 12:35 PM
lagos his plug looks just like mine used to. the ground... Oct 10, 2006 - 12:45 PM
x_itchy_b_x but then my plugs should look the same since they ... Oct 10, 2006 - 1:28 PM
lagos QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 10, 2006 - 2... Oct 10, 2006 - 5:14 PM
95celgt hey lagos, whats the normal operating voltage that... Oct 10, 2006 - 10:06 PM
lagos QUOTE(95celgt @ Oct 10, 2006 - 11:06... Oct 10, 2006 - 10:55 PM
95celgt alright, thanks, just wanted to make sure:P. Oct 10, 2006 - 10:57 PM![]() ![]() |
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