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post Oct 22, 2006 - 10:40 PM
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My car has been driving me nuts lately. For a long time, I've had some troubles shifting into first gear when I'm stopped. Sometimes I'd have to let the clutch pedal out and then push it in again to get into first when stopped. I replaced the slave cylinder, and it made things slightly better.

Now though, the problem is worse. I can't get into first very easily again, most often after the car has warmed up. Also, gear shifts are much more notchy, and I have to pause when shifting from first to second because it's so bad.

Today I adjusted the rod on the master cylinder so that it's pushing the piston as far as it can, but it didn't really make a difference. I also bled the clutch system and it made no difference.

I figure it's probably my master cylinder. I have no leaks anywhere in the system.

My question is, how exactly does a master cylinder fail? Do the rubber seals deteriorate so that fluid can get by the piston as it's pushed in? Does water/contamination get into the system over the time, rusting the cylinder walls so that there's a small gap where fluid can get through? Keep in mind that I have absolutely no leaks anywhere in the sytem.

And if my master cylinder is bad, should I get a cheaper replacement unit from somewhere like Autozone, or should I go for an OEM Toyota one?

Also, my problems get worse as the car warms up. Could the fluid be boiling from slave cylinder or the hard line being close to the header?

Also, do you think a braided stainless steel clutch line would help? Does anyone know if a MR2 or Supra clutch line could fit our cars?


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post Oct 26, 2006 - 11:24 AM
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i have personally rebuilt a c52, and they DO use synchros on all gears, like i suggested earlier, all those symptoms sound like a faulty clutch, and even though it may feel like its engaging and disengaging properly, it still will make the shifting notchy.


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post Oct 26, 2006 - 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(94celicadude @ Oct 26, 2006 - 4:24 PM) [snapback]496328[/snapback]

i have personally rebuilt a c52, and they DO use synchros on all gears, like i suggested earlier, all those symptoms sound like a faulty clutch, and even though it may feel like its engaging and disengaging properly, it still will make the shifting notchy.


Do you think mine could be the cause of a faulty install on the cluth? Because it has no more than 1k miles on it of relatively easy driving. No track days yet.

Posts in this topic
- Coomer   Some hydraulic clutch system problems   Oct 22, 2006 - 10:40 PM
- - Bitter   yes, master cylinders can fail without an external...   Oct 23, 2006 - 12:02 AM
- - cheeco   over time the rubber cup seal in the MC wears out ...   Oct 23, 2006 - 12:03 AM
- - Coomer   What's odd is that if I hold my foot down with...   Oct 23, 2006 - 12:21 AM
- - Bitter   that is odd, but try a lighter pressure. sometime...   Oct 23, 2006 - 12:30 AM
- - Predator   are you really sure your clutch is your problem?, ...   Oct 23, 2006 - 5:39 AM
- - Bitter   yea, a bad synchro is a possibility. 2 parts RedLi...   Oct 23, 2006 - 11:59 AM
- - Coomer   I do know that my second gear synchro is going bad...   Oct 23, 2006 - 12:12 PM
|- - Delta_Phoenix   QUOTE(Coomer @ Oct 23, 2006 - 12:12 ...   Oct 26, 2006 - 2:09 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(Delta_Phoenix @ Oct 26, 2006 - 12...   Oct 26, 2006 - 10:59 AM
- - eggman40   man you just described the EXACT same problem ive ...   Oct 23, 2006 - 12:49 PM
- - uberschall   sa-a-a-ame problem here too. bought it with the c...   Oct 23, 2006 - 9:49 PM
- - 94celicadude   well i experienced the same problem, adjusted the ...   Oct 23, 2006 - 9:56 PM
- - eggman40   i dont think is would be my clutch, its only been ...   Oct 23, 2006 - 10:10 PM
- - Coomer   I think I can eliminate the hydraulic clutch syste...   Oct 24, 2006 - 12:33 PM
- - Bitter   well like i said, if it only happens when hot be s...   Oct 24, 2006 - 12:59 PM
- - eggman40   Hey guys i had a question, for the twos r us steel...   Oct 24, 2006 - 1:04 PM
- - Coomer   I really don't think it's the clutch syste...   Oct 24, 2006 - 1:10 PM
- - ra65_22re   this happened to me as well. i checked everything ...   Oct 24, 2006 - 1:18 PM
- - 94celicadude   i have personally rebuilt a c52, and they DO use s...   Oct 26, 2006 - 11:24 AM
|- - eggman40   QUOTE(94celicadude @ Oct 26, 2006 - 4...   Oct 26, 2006 - 12:25 PM
- - Coomer   Could it possibly be the throwout bearing? When I...   Oct 29, 2006 - 3:26 PM
|- - netrata   I think now is the best time to replace that clutc...   Oct 29, 2006 - 5:45 PM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(netrata @ Oct 29, 2006 - 2:45 ...   Oct 29, 2006 - 6:36 PM
- - netrata   OK, I just posted this topic on club4ag to see if ...   Oct 29, 2006 - 8:20 PM
- - Coomer   Thanks...I already actually posted on Club4AG. An...   Oct 29, 2006 - 9:06 PM
- - Coomer   I tried changing the fluid to Pennzoil Synchromesh...   Nov 6, 2006 - 3:26 PM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(Coomer @ Nov 6, 2006 - 4:26 PM...   Nov 6, 2006 - 4:35 PM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(Rayme @ Nov 6, 2006 - 1:35 PM)...   Nov 10, 2006 - 5:01 AM
- - spunky393   Hey, thats really good to hear. A little successf...   Nov 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM


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