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post Nov 3, 2006 - 4:57 PM
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Since it is getting close to winter and i havent had a chance to drive my car all summer due to the 3sgte swap, i was jsut wondering how the car handles in the snow? Especiallly since i will have all that added power that wasnt intended for this car in teh first place. I was planning on using hakkapeliittas snow tires btw.

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post Nov 10, 2006 - 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 10, 2006 - 1:27 AM) [snapback]501219[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 9, 2006 - 12:59 AM) [snapback]500774[/snapback]

That is the traditional view. But due to what I've seen lately, I question it. There is no doubt that FWD is easier to control. And my experiance with mud trucks says that if you loose your front, you are screwed, but if you loose your rear you have a chance. I think it's not that FWD is worse than RWD in the snow, it's just that RWD isn't as bad as it's made out to be. But, it just takes more skill to use. I don't know, I'll have to test several cars in the snow with RWD, FWD, and AWD to actually know.

Since I've already 'tested'... it's true what has been posted. AWD>FF>FR>MR/RR... but if you're not an idiot... none of them are that bad...

What about the old beatles? They did great in the snow and they are RR. The Porshe Boxter is said to do well. AWD would definately be best. How much of a rear difference would there be in general across the FF - FR cars, if set up right. I think that is key. If it's a boat, obviously, it won't do as well in the snow. But if it's light and doesn't have loads of torque, would it really be that bad? The only thing FR I've driving in the snow was a Wrangler. It wasn't bad, but being so short, when it spun it would spin all the way around and fast. After you got the hang of it, it wasn't bad though, just had to expect it to do that.


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post Nov 10, 2006 - 4:32 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 10, 2006 - 3:07 PM) [snapback]501301[/snapback]

What about the old beatles? They did great in the snow and they are RR. The Porshe Boxter is said to do well. AWD would definately be best. How much of a rear difference would there be in general across the FF - FR cars, if set up right. I think that is key. If it's a boat, obviously, it won't do as well in the snow. But if it's light and doesn't have loads of torque, would it really be that bad? The only thing FR I've driving in the snow was a Wrangler. It wasn't bad, but being so short, when it spun it would spin all the way around and fast. After you got the hang of it, it wasn't bad though, just had to expect it to do that.

You can't measure people's abilities and skill when it comes to something like this... because a BAD AWD driver will do poorly in snow versus a good RR driver in snow. However... you level the playing field and take out the driver and look at it purely from a grip and weight transfer standpoint. MR/RR's will never perform as well as AWD in snow... DUH! because they transfer weight to the drive wheels which in turn will struggle for traction. FF cars don't have terrible weight transfer, so they don't hurt as much as FR cars. AGAIN... if you're not an idiot... none of them are that bad...


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Posts in this topic
- bigal004321   snow handling   Nov 3, 2006 - 4:57 PM
- - hitcachi   is it lowered? Its all in the tires and driver my ...   Nov 4, 2006 - 3:08 AM
- - Kadett   Driven with both the 3S-GE and 3S-GTE now. The GTE...   Nov 4, 2006 - 4:11 AM
|- - 94celicadude   +1 about all being about the tires and driver.   Nov 4, 2006 - 2:39 PM
- - spolski07   good thing i dont have to worry about snow in texa...   Nov 4, 2006 - 2:56 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Get some studded tires and prepare to use them. I...   Nov 6, 2006 - 1:29 AM
- - hurley97   you should watch rally... the car handles great b...   Nov 6, 2006 - 3:09 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Nov 6, 2006 - 2:09 ...   Nov 7, 2006 - 4:21 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Nov 7, 2006 - 4:2...   Nov 7, 2006 - 5:00 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 7, 2006 - 5...   Nov 7, 2006 - 6:37 PM
- - playr158   snow handling 101.... 1) left hand onthe wheel ri...   Nov 7, 2006 - 5:07 PM
- - tomazws   and the movie is out today!   Nov 7, 2006 - 5:28 PM
- - toyotacrazy   I got some 205/60R15 nokian snow/all season tires....   Nov 7, 2006 - 5:57 PM
- - dakk   I agree.Tires and driver.   Nov 7, 2006 - 6:25 PM
- - playr158   in the snow it pretty much goes AWD > FWD ...   Nov 7, 2006 - 7:15 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 7, 2006 - 6:15 ...   Nov 7, 2006 - 11:19 PM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Nov 7, 2006 - 11...   Nov 8, 2006 - 7:59 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 9, 2006 - 1...   Nov 10, 2006 - 1:27 AM
- - syaoran60085   all the above what everyone says here is true, bas...   Nov 7, 2006 - 8:18 PM
- - jdg371   a 4x4 block behind the accelerator.. tires will ...   Nov 7, 2006 - 9:47 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 10, 2006 - 1:27...   Nov 10, 2006 - 10:07 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 10, 2006 - ...   Nov 10, 2006 - 4:32 PM
- - Zimluura   a little off topic, but in the *ice* they say that...   Nov 10, 2006 - 4:40 PM
- - SpoonR530   I definitely agree that it all comes down to the d...   Nov 10, 2006 - 5:00 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 10, 2006 - 4:32...   Nov 12, 2006 - 3:19 PM


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