2AZFE? Options

[uberschall]

primarily for conversation...

seeing as the 2AZFE has assumed the role of replacement for the 5SFE, and it is similar in application and displacement....how feasible/worthwhile is a swap in your opinion?

i got to thinking about it because it is a much better 6-speed option than the peaky, fragile 2ZZ.

based on a quick browse on ebay, the highest price i found for the motor itself was $1700.

and for pete's sake, don't be obnoxious.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I popped the hood on my aunts Camry, and it looks the same as the 5sfe. I thought it was until I noticed the 2400 stamp. If it doesn't bolt right up, it has to be close. Toyota wouldn't just drasticly change things like that.

[saleeka]

Toyota wouldn't just drasticly change things like that.

Yes they would. The S series motor's design development started in the early 80's... They aren't GM, you know...

[JesterDC]

who freaking cares about the definitioin of 'forged' and whether they'd just change things all of the sudden!!! This Topic has some serious potential, so "c'mon guuyys Keeap it Serial!"

[Kwanza26]

who freaking cares about the definitioin of 'forged' and whether they'd just change things all of the sudden!!! This Topic has some serious potential, so "c'mon guuyys Keeap it Serial!"

Uhem... learn to spell. Just so you realize there is a big difference between a discussion of "possibility" and a discussion "probability".

thats exactly what i'm saying, research won't prepare you for when you cut the **** out of a celi, weld in some mounts then because of that something interferes with something or axles don't fit, shifter cables don't reach, stuff doesn't line up and one thing f-cks up annother and everything becomes one big as-s disaster.
This isn't body work where every part is passive , this is high profile mecanical engineering
Yeah sure you "can" make it work but by that time you're getting into a franken swap type of job and you might as well put a jet engine connected to your rear wheels.... only with a 2AZ you'd have 25HP more, still FWD, still a 4 banger. (not putting the 2AZ down, just pointing out that if you're about to do a monster garage type of swap, might as well get something better)

You sound like I did when you and others started dreaming about V6 swaps (except everyone else kept dreaming and you actually did it)... Experience sure does change things huh?

Ok... it's a 160hp engine 160 ftlbs of torque... 2.4 liter econo engine. I fail to see the point behind all of that custom work for a marginally better performing motor over the 5SFE... but hey... that's just me. I think all of those who have NOT done swaps... should just shut up and quit speculating. Like I told k-esd back when he was talking about a V6 swap... shut up and go do it. If you're gonna do it... do it. People don't care about 'wanting to do it'... Hell... people want a lot of things, however this is uncharted waters. Are you gonna ask hoping for a path to be made, or make the path?

Personally speaking... I would NOT even bother with this swap. The engine is new and expensive... TC's are fairly cheap cars... they look nice, handle every bit as good as a 6gc, they have the amenities, the aftermarket support, and in this case, which suddenly seems to be so debate-able, they have the 2AZ. Why not spend all of that money and buy the damn car instead? Don't give me none of that crap about 'originality' and 'uniqueness' or whatever. "unique" would be swaping in a motor that actually has performance value... not an updated version of the 5SFE. To think I originally hated (and still do to some degree) toyota/scion for putting the 2AZFE in the TC... heh

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Nov 14, 2006 - 11:19 AM