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post Aug 1, 2003 - 11:44 AM
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Well my plans are to get a calica gt, but for fun I was looking at mr2's on auto trader, so I see turbo one for 13,000 and take a look, well hes got a 3sgte swapped in and body kit and tons of stuff, So now Im thinking at the end of August when Im planning on getting a car to see if I can talk that guy down to around 10,000. What do you guys think about that? Anyone been in an mr2? are they really small inside?
 
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post Aug 1, 2003 - 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (HyperDeathKill @ Aug 1, 2003 - 3:16 PM)
I like the way the new ones look, I like em a lot. It's just sad they don't have the power.

The age old question.....Why the hell didn't Toyota put the 2ZZ-GE instead of the 1ZZ-FE. Heres the answer...

Toyota had in mind that "hmm what would make us have profitable sales yet let us have a good quality sports car that can have fun"

Toyota Factored In the Following:
FACT: THe AW11 MR2 had the bset sales of the MR2 line
FACT: Critics attacked the heavier and less involving 2nd gen MR2 Turbo although it was more powerful.....tehy also attacked the 30K+ Price tag.
FACT: Lotus original design seemed to give a great edge and sales.

Tehy looked into the 1ST gen mr2 and what made it so popular.....they also thoguht "hmm maybe we shoudl do something innovative so that we have anotehr entice balh blah blah.....which then came the SMT (Sequential Manual Transmission"

They also looked to the classic british roadsters and etc.

Toyota found that they shoudl combine Lotus Elements (Lightweight and Goodlooking) classic british roadster appeal and then the AW11 original charming essence...

Although some love it and some hate it the MR-S is a fun machine...

Toyota finally decided on a frame not unlike the Pontiac Fiero which would make it cheeper to replace body panels and lighter too.

Toyota uses also plastics but very high qualtioy plastics to lower weight.

The 1ZZ-FE engien is used because they and many feel that it is more responsive and less work (in other words.more fun) Toyota claims that not sticking a 6-Speed be better for lighter weight (although now they stick a 6Speed in there in otehr markets..and now for the 2003 year there is a 6-Speed Sequential instead of only 5) The 2ZZ-GE engine is a bit harder to work but with the greater effort equates for more HP. The extra 50HP does not come in untill AFTER 6000 RPM's so Toyota thinks that the 1ZZ-FE engine is good enough.

MotorTrend tested the car and got a 0-60 in around 6.9-7.6 Seconds....the guy was probobly very thin.

The car only weighs around 2100 pounds w/o driver

Now think about the next lotus elise..wit hteh 2ZZ-GE, 6-Speed and only 1900 pounds......wowie

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Posts in this topic
- Uppitycracker   Celica or MR2   Aug 1, 2003 - 11:44 AM
- - hioctane   dont all mr2s have the 3sgte or the 3sge engine in...   Aug 1, 2003 - 11:51 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   nope only some mr2's have the 3sgte sum have t...   Aug 1, 2003 - 11:58 AM
- - ghostdog   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Aug 1, 2003 - 10:58 AM) Any...   Aug 1, 2003 - 12:12 PM
- - 97sccelica   when i was in one, it was a little smaller than my...   Aug 1, 2003 - 1:21 PM
- - Supersprynt   91' 5sfe's are dogs, MR2's weigh more ...   Aug 1, 2003 - 1:37 PM
- - Uppitycracker   ya this is a 91, he said he swapped in a turbo eng...   Aug 1, 2003 - 1:44 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   200 hp is the 2nd Gen -Nate   Aug 1, 2003 - 1:49 PM
- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE (XE_Nathaniel @ Aug 1, 2003 - 11:03 AM) 200 ...   Aug 1, 2003 - 1:51 PM
- - Stealths95GT   i drove an MR2...really isn't any room...and i...   Aug 1, 2003 - 2:05 PM
- - HyperDeathKill   The 2g N/A MR2s had the 4age engine. Something li...   Aug 1, 2003 - 2:14 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   no the 2nd gen had the 5S-FE. and yes it was the ...   Aug 1, 2003 - 3:00 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   Oh yea I jsut realized he said "well over...   Aug 1, 2003 - 3:01 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   84-89 AW11 MKI MR2s have the 4-AGE 88-89 AW11 MKI ...   Aug 1, 2003 - 3:04 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   When I sat in the MR2 it wasnt that small (All Gen...   Aug 1, 2003 - 3:06 PM
- - FireinDC   personaly (tell me if im wrong) ive been calculati...   Aug 1, 2003 - 3:27 PM
- - Magic   Uppitycracker You are in the most addicted 6 Gen C...   Aug 1, 2003 - 4:03 PM
- - boosted_K2   USDM 2nd gens had 200HP, JDM 2nd Gens had 225 HP, ...   Aug 1, 2003 - 4:10 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (FireinDC @ Aug 1, 2003 - 12:41 PM) personal...   Aug 1, 2003 - 5:05 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   I agree....the S2K is waaay too cramped...I love t...   Aug 1, 2003 - 5:21 PM
- - HyperDeathKill   Arg, I always forget that the newest generation is...   Aug 1, 2003 - 6:02 PM
- - DonMagicJuan   I've seen a really nice fixed up one around my...   Aug 1, 2003 - 6:10 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   Yes it is true...its not a reject more than a ...   Aug 1, 2003 - 11:23 PM
- - XE_Nathaniel   QUOTE (HyperDeathKill @ Aug 1, 2003 - 3:16 PM) I l...   Aug 1, 2003 - 11:34 PM
- - FireinDC   yeah but still--- 300 ****ing horsepower... thats ...   Aug 3, 2003 - 1:27 AM
- - Cody   Torque steer, for one.   Aug 3, 2003 - 1:31 AM
- - Uppitycracker   Well after alot of thinking Im going to call aroun...   Aug 3, 2003 - 7:53 AM
- - speedracer_2020   Hey.. there are a few 6Gen Celica's available ...   Aug 6, 2003 - 10:50 PM
- - macavely   hard chose...i would try to get the mr2   Aug 6, 2003 - 11:13 PM
- - boosted_K2   my insurance on my MR2 will be about 200 bucks les...   Aug 7, 2003 - 2:24 AM


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