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post Nov 27, 2006 - 5:50 AM
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I have an issue - in order to put beautiful Volk Racing rims I need spacers - 10-15mm.
In such case I also would need to change studs to longer ones.
I called one company producing spacers and studs and they said - no problem, we can
do it for you but reconsider longer studs as this is quite dangerous to put them on.
They rather recommended spacers with studs in them but they come only from 23 mm
thickness up, which is too much for me.

Anyone has experience with longer studs? I will drive with these wheels fast and hard
so need to be sure that everything is perfectly safe.


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post Nov 27, 2006 - 10:37 AM
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The way to go in terms of spacers is replacing the studs. Do not purchase spacers that have studs attached to them. Replacing studs is not a hard job to do, i will be doing the job soon so i can do a write up if you'd like.

If you buy spacers, buy H&R brand product. They are by far the best spacer to buy and they're track used and proven to be reliable. here is a link to their website,
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/index.html

post Nov 27, 2006 - 2:43 PM
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QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Nov 27, 2006 - 10:37 AM) [snapback]505532[/snapback]

The way to go in terms of spacers is replacing the studs. Do not purchase spacers that have studs attached to them.

Well, actually what I have heard is the opposite, and I understand the logic:
- with long studs you have longer arm on which the force of spinning wheel and spacer is acting, which means a stud is easier to be broken
- using spacer with studs in it, the same force is divided onto two shorter arms - one is hub to spacer, second is spacer to wheel - better distribution of rotation force

But the problem remains - 23 mm spacer is too thick. I need to check how much stock stud I have left with 10 mm spacer - 25 mm of stud, less 10 mm of spacer, less X mm for wheel placement.

So the key question is how much of a stud has to be left to screw the lug on it to be safe?


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'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.
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post Nov 27, 2006 - 8:43 PM
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QUOTE(TomPoz @ Nov 27, 2006 - 2:43 PM) [snapback]505589[/snapback]

QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Nov 27, 2006 - 10:37 AM) [snapback]505532[/snapback]

The way to go in terms of spacers is replacing the studs. Do not purchase spacers that have studs attached to them.

Well, actually what I have heard is the opposite, and I understand the logic:
- with long studs you have longer arm on which the force of spinning wheel and spacer is acting, which means a stud is easier to be broken
- using spacer with studs in it, the same force is divided onto two shorter arms - one is hub to spacer, second is spacer to wheel - better distribution of rotation force

But the problem remains - 23 mm spacer is too thick. I need to check how much stock stud I have left with 10 mm spacer - 25 mm of stud, less 10 mm of spacer, less X mm for wheel placement.

So the key question is how much of a stud has to be left to screw the lug on it to be safe?


you wont be ablt to use a 10mm spacer w/ stock studs...i tried 15mm w/ stock stud and i couldnt even get my tire on.

I dont know of a reliable company that sells the spacers w/ the studs in it. H&R is the only company i know of that manufactures reliable spacers but unfortunatly the only kit for our cars requires the stud replacement. They sell the spacers w/ studs fixed to them on ebay but i would never put that on my car.

i would talk to jgreening (member) who put rays wheels on his car and also did the stud-replacement H&R spacers. He can tell you if he had problems w/ them or not...he also had a 3s under his hood so the car did have power and i dont believe he had problems w/ the studs

This post has been edited by Jdog1385: Nov 27, 2006 - 8:46 PM

Posts in this topic
- TomPoz   Longer studs   Nov 27, 2006 - 5:50 AM
- - malpaso   I have same problem Tomasz... Everything what they...   Nov 27, 2006 - 6:18 AM
- - Jdog1385   The way to go in terms of spacers is replacing the...   Nov 27, 2006 - 10:37 AM
|- - TomPoz   QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Nov 27, 2006 - 10:3...   Nov 27, 2006 - 2:43 PM
|- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(TomPoz @ Nov 27, 2006 - 2:43 P...   Nov 27, 2006 - 8:43 PM
- - playr158   longer studds with a spacer is the way to go....we...   Nov 28, 2006 - 3:42 PM
|- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 28, 2006 - 3:42...   Nov 28, 2006 - 4:16 PM
- - playr158   eh i'm just lucky that was the section we cove...   Nov 28, 2006 - 4:45 PM
|- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 28, 2006 - 4:45...   Nov 28, 2006 - 9:52 PM
- - 6gsillyca   If you do go with longer studs, seperate from the ...   Nov 29, 2006 - 4:30 AM
|- - TomPoz   QUOTE(6gsillyca @ Nov 29, 2006 - 4:3...   Nov 29, 2006 - 4:52 AM
- - playr158   as much as the lug nut is deep   Nov 29, 2006 - 3:03 PM
|- - TomPoz   QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 29, 2006 - 3:03...   Nov 29, 2006 - 7:35 PM
- - playr158   you call them "LUGS" we call them ...   Nov 29, 2006 - 8:12 PM
- - eggman40   Go here, www.wheeladaptor.com I got mine from h...   Nov 30, 2006 - 1:10 AM
|- - Slick   QUOTE(eggman40 @ Nov 30, 2006 - 8:10...   Nov 30, 2006 - 8:04 AM
|- - eggman40   QUOTE(Slick @ Nov 30, 2006 - 5:04 AM...   Dec 2, 2006 - 6:49 AM
|- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(eggman40 @ Dec 2, 2006 - 6:49 ...   Dec 2, 2006 - 9:05 AM
||- - TomPoz   OK, test was done: 5 mm is not enough, 10 mm is ju...   Dec 2, 2006 - 7:08 PM
|- - Slick   QUOTE(eggman40 @ Dec 2, 2006 - 1:49 ...   Dec 3, 2006 - 12:16 PM
- - TomPoz   Thanks guys. @playr158: my lug nuts are around 1...   Nov 30, 2006 - 7:45 AM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE(TomPoz @ Nov 30, 2006 - 1:45 P...   Nov 30, 2006 - 8:25 AM
- - TomPoz   Thanks, Martin - if I need help, def I'll let ...   Nov 30, 2006 - 10:21 AM
- - Kadett   H&R DRS series come with the appropiate longer...   Dec 3, 2006 - 1:15 PM
- - soulshadow   Can u guys really trust your life to a aluminium s...   Dec 3, 2006 - 1:30 PM
- - Slick   QUOTE(Kadett @ Dec 3, 2006 - 8:15 PM...   Dec 3, 2006 - 1:32 PM
- - TomPoz   Looks like either I: - go with 15 mm spacers by br...   Dec 3, 2006 - 2:18 PM
|- - 6gsillyca   QUOTE(TomPoz @ Dec 3, 2006 - 12:18 P...   Dec 6, 2006 - 12:55 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(6gsillyca @ Dec 6, 2006 - 11:5...   Dec 6, 2006 - 3:41 PM
- - playr158   if the cost is so great there what is the price di...   Dec 3, 2006 - 10:10 PM
|- - TomPoz   QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:10...   Dec 4, 2006 - 6:23 AM
- - Kadett   Got my H&R kits for 70 euro's per axle   Dec 4, 2006 - 11:14 AM
- - eggman40   QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Dec 2, 2006 - 6:05 ...   Dec 6, 2006 - 3:50 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE your not really running two rims. your bas...   Dec 6, 2006 - 3:48 PM
- - Kadett   Hubcentric rings are plastic rings that are fitted...   Dec 6, 2006 - 3:34 PM
- - playr158   right now i have 16mm spacers on each rear...with ...   Dec 6, 2006 - 7:24 PM
- - TomPoz   So finally I have bought H&R spacers: Trak+ DR...   Jan 25, 2007 - 8:00 AM
- - SveNRG   How are the 15mm H&R's working out for you...   Jul 3, 2007 - 6:43 AM


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