cone filter - does it really make a difference?, newb questions Options

[BloodyStupidDave...]

Hi,

I notice that most members' cars have a cone filter fitted.

I picked up an unbranded burgandy red cone filter for a couple of pounds at my local scrappy. It looks brand new. Considering using it on my Celica, but does it really make a difference over the stock Toyota panel filter? Perhaps I should look at a K&N panel filter to go in the stock air filter box?

Also, being in the UK and as my Celica is my daily drive, the engine bay gets quite damp, salty and grubby. How do cone filters cope with water and dirt build-up? Should I be looking to box the cone filter in a similar way to the stock air filter box?

Finally, where is a good place to fit a mass air flow sensor with the stock setup and with the cone filter fitted?


This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Jun 16, 2007 - 12:03 PM

[Kwanza26]

Open element filters, cone, paper, foam, whatever it is... is mostly for the sound. The power increase is too small to really notice.

[manphibian]

Open element filters, cone, paper, foam, whatever it is... is mostly for the sound. The power increase is too small to really notice.

I disagree. When i installed my cone and cold air feed, the difference WAS noticable! The throttle response was a lot faster and any flatspots in the acceleration were removed.

There is no doubt that increased cold air flow into the engine makes a difference.

[Kwanza26]

Open element filters, cone, paper, foam, whatever it is... is mostly for the sound. The power increase is too small to really notice.

I disagree. When i installed my cone and cold air feed, the difference WAS noticable! The throttle response was a lot faster and any flatspots in the acceleration were removed.

There is no doubt that increased cold air flow into the engine makes a difference.

we're not talking about cold air. Open element filters tend to get hotter if anything...

[tin_foil]

Open element filters, cone, paper, foam, whatever it is... is mostly for the sound. The power increase is too small to really notice.

I disagree. When i installed my cone and cold air feed, the difference WAS noticable! The throttle response was a lot faster and any flatspots in the acceleration were removed.

There is no doubt that increased cold air flow into the engine makes a difference.

we're not talking about cold air. Open element filters tend to get hotter if anything...

^x2. Your cool air feed is the only thing you feel making a difference. Just a cone isn't going to make any noticible difference.

[GTS13]

Open element filters, cone, paper, foam, whatever it is... is mostly for the sound. The power increase is too small to really notice.

I disagree. When i installed my cone and cold air feed, the difference WAS noticable! The throttle response was a lot faster and any flatspots in the acceleration were removed.

There is no doubt that increased cold air flow into the engine makes a difference.

we're not talking about cold air. Open element filters tend to get hotter if anything...

^x2. Your cool air feed is the only thing you feel making a difference. Just a cone isn't going to make any noticible difference.

Agreed, although you're getting more air, it's gonna be hotter which can actually be worse. The cold feed is a good idea, especially since most CAI's get wet (very bad) and the feed can somewhat bypass that. Make sure your feed is placed in angles that water cannot travel up. Also it's always good to create a heat shield for you filter. They're not too hard to make and there are examples everywhere. It's just too bad no one makes perdy ones for our cars already.