3S-GE - redline at 6k rpms or 7k rpms??? Options

[Outlaw]

Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and personally I don't own a Toyota. But several of my friends do so here is where my doubts began. Well I have 2 friends each one with a Toyota Curren (identical) 94/96 (same as Celica) with 5 speed manual and 3S-GE engine. I think that engine in the 6th gen has about 170bhp. My question is: why one of them has a 6000 redline and 6200 rev limiter (it starts to turn red at 6krpms) and the other one has the same tach but at 7000 redline and 7200 rev limiter. The one with 6krpms has till 8rpms in the tach and the other has till 9rpms. I was surprised particulary with the one with 7.2krpms rev limiter because in all of the celicas I saw on the internet them usually had 6200rpms and 5800rpms on MT and AT repectivaly I think...

So before watchin the 7.2krpms rev limiter (and watchin the internet pictures of celicas) I bet my friend that he was lying to me!!! (it was for a Bacardi!!! hehe) so when I saw it i couldn't believe it (and of course it's not turbo). Anyone knows why is this??? I couldn't find any logical answer yet! hope u guys help me...

One more thing. The guy with the 7.2 race to a '91 4A-GZE from a stop and lost!!! (Trueno pull him about 2 cars eventhough he started later!) and I saw specs of both and them both had about the same bhp and weight...

All of these cars are bone stock btw.

Thanks!!!

This post has been edited by Outlaw: Jan 24, 2007 - 10:23 AM

[Outlaw]

That's what I'm saying. His 3S-GE got a 7k rpms redline tach like a celica's BEAMS version but it's not BEAMS I mean it doesn't have VVT-i (BEAMS = VVTi right?) and when we raced against the Trueno 4A-GZE I felt the car kinda "heavy" at high rpms (6.8-7.2krpms)(I was with him). Here is where enters the part when I said he should shift earlier. I mean maybe he got the rev limiter at 7.2 krpms like a BEAMS version maybe? but its not so it has to shift like a normal 3S-GE (aprox 6-6.2krpms).