lotus engine Options

[celiman5]

hey i was just curious but would a lotus engine be able to fit and run in our celicas since the engine is toyota based. i know it would be super expensive, but i was just wondering when i was reading a magazine with a lotus in there that, would it be possible.

[Bitter]

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/coroll...8630172cf8d.htm

that always makes my pants tight.

This post has been edited by Bitter: Feb 4, 2007 - 9:43 PM

[JesterDC]

The 2ZZ is an extremely peaky engine, it has NO bottem end because it was built by Yamaha. The ZZ engines are pretty much low-revving, 4-cyl, motorcycle engines

[Bitter]

The 2ZZ is an extremely peaky engine, it has NO bottem end because it was built by Yamaha. The ZZ engines are pretty much low-revving, 4-cyl, motorcycle engines

the zz engine is all toyota, the G heads are the yamaha part. the 2zzge has a powerband similar to a 1zzfe below 5000 rpm. most G headed engines are higher revving engines, because yes the G heads do have SOME similar characteristics to motorcycle engines, but they also have alot thats NOT in common.

[JesterDC]

The 2ZZ is an extremely peaky engine, it has NO bottem end because it was built by Yamaha. The ZZ engines are pretty much low-revving, 4-cyl, motorcycle engines

the zz engine is all toyota, the G heads are the yamaha part. the 2zzge has a powerband similar to a 1zzfe below 5000 rpm. most G headed engines are higher revving engines, because yes the G heads do have SOME similar characteristics to motorcycle engines, but they also have alot thats NOT in common.

And even though the 2zz revs ok for a CAR engine, it dosen't rev nearly high enough to make a decent powerband with the way its heads were desighned.

Think about it like this, Car engines rev to 6-7,000-ish on average, while most performance motorcycle engines rev to +11,000, and then the fact that the 2zz was supposed to be a performance engine comes into play. If the desighner desighns a head for a 11,000 rpm engine and is then asked to make a head for toyota, chances are it's going to be very characteristic of the motorcycle head...

here's a 2zz dyno

[Kwanza26]

And even though the 2zz revs ok for a CAR engine, it dosen't rev nearly high enough to make a decent powerband with the way its heads were desighned.

Think about it like this, Car engines rev to 6-7,000-ish on average, while most performance motorcycle engines rev to +11,000, and then the fact that the 2zz was supposed to be a performance engine comes into play. If the desighner desighns a head for a 11,000 rpm engine and is then asked to make a head for toyota, chances are it's going to be very characteristic of the motorcycle head...

You sir... are highly generalizing the way this engine, or any performance n/a 4 cylinder makes power. If you think 160whp @ 8000 rpms is bad... well... haha. If you think torque peak at 6500 rpms is bad... well... haha. Guess you never raced a car before huh? Low-end torque is fine and dandy if you like to drive around town and act like you're fast... get some groceries and such and such... but if you want to drive a car with track capable engine AND still be able to drive around town... well... not a lot of 4 cylinders will out-perform the 2ZZ. The only time you should talk about low-end torque is when you have an engine bigger than 3 liters... or a big fat turbo.

FYI... almost all of the Toyota heads have some sort of Yamaha input if not completely yamaha designed... a couple of them are pretty much Yahama designed PERIOD. 3SGE heads are all labeled YAMAHA... 1/2JZGE heads... Yamaha... 20V 4AGE... Yamaha. That's like... pretty much all of Toyota's sport engines huh?

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Feb 5, 2007 - 8:08 PM