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post Feb 12, 2007 - 3:53 PM
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ok i have read that the 4age head gasket fits a 7afe so i would like to know if i use a set of 4agze pistons with a 2mm head gasket will i be ok for 10-12psi of boost or will the gze pistons raise the compression to much even with the 2mm steel gasket smile.gif just need some input befor i buy parts i dont need biggrin.gif thanks guys


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post Feb 13, 2007 - 11:11 AM
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Ya know.. maybe some people just like being "original" ... but I've been down the road of "original" and "under dog" bull****.. Oh ya lets take this heap of **** engine and try to make it something fantastic.. all we need to do is throw money at it... what did it get me? Shot piston rings and a worthless engine with fat cams and quad carbs that were impossible to tune.. not to mention a few thousand down the drain.

Think about the long run.. what will be easier to build, be more reliable with power and cheaper in the long run?

I seriously don't know why people try to put all of this 2000 dollar budget engineering into an engine hoping to make reliable every day power.

A 3S can be had for around 2K.. a full swap if you do it yourself would only come out to about 3500 tops.. with some new engine parts .. FMIC or what not.. exhaust etc... and you'll be making over 200whp reliably every single day. Then you have the option of making more power with fairly simple upgrades like the turbo.. go standalone ecu.. fuel upgrades.. you will be making a LOT more reliable power. You will also have less headaches of trying to figure stupid **** out.. and you will spend less money.

To do this little 7afe boosted **** you will need a standalone.. you will then need dyno time.. don't forget wideband o2.. don't forget aftermarket MAP sensor ... turbo.. custom manifold.. etc etc etc etc... Then you get to blow up the transmission or take a lot of life off of it.. unless you get a better trans.. oops there is more money.

best of luck with whatever you decide to do.


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post Feb 13, 2007 - 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 13, 2007 - 11:11 AM) [snapback]526432[/snapback]

Ya know.. maybe some people just like being "original" ... but I've been down the road of "original" and "under dog" bull****.. Oh ya lets take this heap of **** engine and try to make it something fantastic.. all we need to do is throw money at it... what did it get me? Shot piston rings and a worthless engine with fat cams and quad carbs that were impossible to tune.. not to mention a few thousand down the drain.

Think about the long run.. what will be easier to build, be more reliable with power and cheaper in the long run?

I seriously don't know why people try to put all of this 2000 dollar budget engineering into an engine hoping to make reliable every day power.

A 3S can be had for around 2K.. a full swap if you do it yourself would only come out to about 3500 tops.. with some new engine parts .. FMIC or what not.. exhaust etc... and you'll be making over 200whp reliably every single day. Then you have the option of making more power with fairly simple upgrades like the turbo.. go standalone ecu.. fuel upgrades.. you will be making a LOT more reliable power. You will also have less headaches of trying to figure stupid **** out.. and you will spend less money.

To do this little 7afe boosted **** you will need a standalone.. you will then need dyno time.. don't forget wideband o2.. don't forget aftermarket MAP sensor ... turbo.. custom manifold.. etc etc etc etc... Then you get to blow up the transmission or take a lot of life off of it.. unless you get a better trans.. oops there is more money.

best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

WOW!!!! get up on the wrong side of the bed did we? laugh.gif jk....... i would love to swap but it is just not legal to do and i dont need any of that trouble smile.gif know if i had a 5gen then that is totaly what i would do wink.gif as far as the trans goes i have a auto ( wait dont bash on it to hard) i have put in a better torque converter into it so i dont think it should be a problem, as far as spending money this is my hobbie i dont drink or smoke , no drugs ,so i spend any extra cash i can on building cars (legal street cars) i have a 3000gt i built up n/a to run a 13 sec 1/4 mi time ,and a civic with a d15 that is turboed every day driver that put down a decent 193hp to the wheels my celica has been turboed for about 20,000 miles and is running strong ,i just want a little more out of it , and i would like to learn what i can from doing this. a swap is kind of a no brainer ,no offence to any one that has a swap ,it is just most any one can do it wink.gif


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- trd94   piston help   Feb 12, 2007 - 3:53 PM
- - playr158   you arn't a newbie stickie http://www.6gc.ne...   Feb 12, 2007 - 4:44 PM
- - trd94   yeah i searched and read what you wrote about the ...   Feb 12, 2007 - 5:06 PM
- - playr158   2mm is the max you really want to go... the best s...   Feb 12, 2007 - 5:17 PM
- - trd94   this is true ,and if i would use the 10:XX:1 ratio...   Feb 12, 2007 - 10:50 PM
- - playr158   with the higher compression ratio, you would gain ...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:01 PM
- - lagos   raising compression and adding boost is a bad idea...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:05 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 12, 2007 - 11:05 P...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:11 PM
- - playr158   how is runing a low 10.x:1 or high 9.X:1 compressi...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:08 PM
- - playr158   well not just the headgasket you would be able to ...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:13 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 12, 2007 - 11:1...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:19 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 12, 2007 - 11:0...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:31 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 12, 2007 - 11:31 P...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:44 PM
- - playr158   lagos you do realize stock compression is like 9.5...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:45 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 12, 2007 - 11:4...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:53 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 12, 2007 - 11:4...   Feb 13, 2007 - 6:20 AM
- - lagos   can you post your dyno sheets? that way, we would ...   Feb 13, 2007 - 12:30 AM
- - playr158   probably in the head? lol i think thats an underst...   Feb 13, 2007 - 12:44 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 13, 2007 - 12:4...   Feb 13, 2007 - 12:51 AM
- - playr158   because 7afe pistons are right about even with the...   Feb 13, 2007 - 12:58 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEbecause 7afe pistons are right about even wit...   Feb 13, 2007 - 1:05 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 13, 2007 - 6:20...   Feb 13, 2007 - 9:22 AM
- - trd94   ok here is my plan, i am putting in a new timing b...   Feb 13, 2007 - 11:00 AM
- - Punisher   Ya know.. maybe some people just like being ...   Feb 13, 2007 - 11:11 AM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 13, 2007 - 11:1...   Feb 13, 2007 - 11:28 AM
- - playr158   haha i like this guy!   Feb 13, 2007 - 12:04 PM
|- - Punisher   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 13, 2007 - 12:0...   Feb 13, 2007 - 1:48 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 13, 2007 - 1:48...   Feb 13, 2007 - 3:09 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEyeah i could do a swap and then whin i go to ...   Feb 13, 2007 - 3:53 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 13, 2007 - 3:53 PM...   Feb 13, 2007 - 4:14 PM
|- - playr158   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 13, 2007 - 3:53 PM...   Feb 13, 2007 - 9:28 PM
- - trd94   hey player who is running the 11:1 setup could you...   Feb 13, 2007 - 10:05 PM
|- - Punisher   Um.. So you're saying that if you swapped a 5t...   Feb 14, 2007 - 12:08 AM
- - trd94   a legal motor swap would be a motor from that mode...   Feb 14, 2007 - 8:39 AM
- - jason   QUOTE besides.. a 3S is a bolt in swap on an st? ...   Feb 16, 2007 - 10:38 PM
|- - Punisher   QUOTE(jason @ Feb 16, 2007 - 10:38 P...   Feb 16, 2007 - 11:58 PM
- - playr158   mounts don't just bolt in...you have to drill ...   Feb 17, 2007 - 2:36 PM
|- - Punisher   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 17, 2007 - 2:36...   Feb 19, 2007 - 2:19 AM
- - playr158   honestly the 3s isn't the holy **** of motors ...   Feb 19, 2007 - 11:22 AM
- - Negative   LOL. He wants more form his 7A - it's his moto...   Feb 19, 2007 - 11:35 AM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 19, 2007 - 11:3...   Feb 19, 2007 - 3:33 PM
- - frotou   Trd ; the most important thing you must specify wi...   Feb 19, 2007 - 6:45 PM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 19, 2007 - 6:45 P...   Feb 20, 2007 - 5:03 PM
|- - Negative   QUOTE(trd94 @ Feb 20, 2007 - 10:03 P...   Feb 21, 2007 - 12:30 PM
- - Punisher   I don't care what he does it's up to him.....   Feb 19, 2007 - 9:51 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 19, 2007 - 9:51...   Feb 20, 2007 - 9:14 AM
- - frotou   Hum... I think you'll get too high CR with 4a ...   Feb 21, 2007 - 9:23 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 21, 2007 - 9:23 A...   Feb 21, 2007 - 3:11 PM
- - trd94   do you think with a 2mm head gasket it would get i...   Feb 21, 2007 - 4:05 PM
- - playr158   you'd have to use an engine calculator (searc...   Feb 21, 2007 - 4:07 PM


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