Rant on Theories, Laws & Misconceptions Options

[Supersprynt]

I hesitated creating a thread regarding this but this is really the best medium in which many people can talk openly about something w/o much consequence. Plus I'm big on freedom of speech and so here it goes.

Friday night I go and see Damon Wayans stand up. Second time I saw him, and he was pretty funny the first time. This time he wasn't nearly as funny. Mainly because he started attacking anything that wasn't Christian. Oh boy. So he goes on to say that evolution is the stupidest thing he's ever heard and goes about mocking how its ridiculous something just formed and one day hopped out of the water and another day got legs and another day jumped up into a tree and then finally said "I got to get a job" as a human.

Hilarious. Oh wait, its not. In fact I was flabberghasted and the level of sheer stupidity emanating from this mans mouth. Evolution is the stupidest thing he's heard? Did he think it happened in 6 days? He then continued to say that atheism is on the rise and its basically got to be stopped and how its horrible not to believe in anything.

By now your thinking, where is he going with this? My dilemma which is actually eating at me is how many of you think that evolution isn't real? How many people think that evolution happened overnight; and how many people are under the impression that evolution is just a hypothesis, nothing more than a guess; how many people think atheism is evil? Im genuinely curious.

If I dont get any responses to this I'll chalk it up to I wrote too much, you got tired, fell asleep and drooled on your keyboard. I also want to say that if you do decide to respond, you do it in an intelligent, RESPECTFUL manner. I'm not looking for this to get closed because religion is a very very touchy subject. This is primarily for those who have an open mind, and willing to engage in intelligent conversation.

Thanks.

[Supersprynt]

Punisher - Evolution isnt a "theory" as the common person takes it. Its a scientific theory. As in the Atomic Theory (everything is made up on atoms) or the Theory of Relativity. How would someone accept the Atomic Theory, and not Evolutionary Theory. Its not just an idea that you can say oh yeah it didnt happen. Its got so much evidence supporting it that it stands with the theory that atoms make up everything.

If I get this right - your saying god created something, billions of years ago with the intention of it becoming an "us"?

What you seem to be doing is changing around the bible to fit your own personal conflicts with. Its plausible if ... or It'd make more sense if you changed this...

I think a fair statement would be that you believe in a something, but not so much a "god".



I agree with the blackholes thing. Its hard to grasp a gravitational force so strong it doesnt let light out, making it invisible.

Uh.. I said that an idea to ME.. is that GOD created us.. and set evolution into action and let us evolve.. I do believe in evolution to an extent.. that life can adapt to it's surroundings given a long period of time. I do not believe in the theory of evolution. It is a theory, I don't care how much "scientific" fact someone claims to have. We can answer exactly how we were created.. but we can't cure cancer?

I think it would also be a fair statement that you are acting like a pompous ass now. You ask for peoples idea's and believes.. why? So you could try to scientificly shoot it down and tell us what WE believe? I believe in GOD as in a CHRISTIAN GOD. Take your fair statements elsewhere.

You are set on what you wish to believe in and so am I, there will only be head butting over something that neither of us can prove to eachother.. so there is no point in arguing about it.

PS> I said IDEA TO ME.. as in it is one of many idea's I have.. they are just my personal thoughts on something that I spend maybe a collective hour each year thinking about. I do believe fully that the creation stories 6 days are not really 6 24hr periods.. because to a being like GOD (yes, once again I believe!) there would be no such thing as minutes or days.

Well there you go. You dont have be going off and getting rattled and calling people names. Thats what happens when you are ill informed and your called out on it. Calling the Theory of evolution just a theory and you dont believe in it like its something you can just dismiss as if there wasnt loads of evidence for it. If you cant argue like someone who can sit and explore your own thoughts and ideas in a manner which is civilized, then make yourself absent in this discussion.

All I've done is state what is arguable, not arguable. Points that are backed by evidence and points that are only opinions which have no factual basis. You can THINK the evolutionary theory is just a theory but your wrong. Whether or not you can deal with that fact is up to you. Its evident you cannot and therefore resort to name calling.

I asked about evolution, not your beliefs. Go re-read it. I didnt ask about whether or not you believe in god, or what evolution is to you. I dont care what god you believe in, and since my fair statement was spot on considering if you believe in a Christian God, evolution didnt happen. So I can tell you right now, you dont kno wtf you believe, because everything you say contradicts something else.

I am not SET in what i WISH to believe. I see and hear and observe and I come up with a conclusion based on that. I dont believe in evolution like you believe in god. I see facts and agree with a conlcusion and explanation.

You summed up alot of narrow minded people in what you've said. You spend a collective hour, in a year thinking about something that controls your life. I think about this constantly. I re-evaluate what I believe all the time because thats what scientists do. They go back, rethink, retest. Its not that I dont want to believe in a god, so i dont. Its that with everything there is. believing in a god doesnt make sense to me.

Your first post showed something of a conflict between trying to believe in god and wrestling with all that science shows, and your second post here shows very clearly that your one dimensional.

I created this thread to get an idea on what peoples' take on evolution was. Not the beginning of life, not the existence of god, not what you think happened billions of years ago.

When people present what they think are facts or arguments that are arguing for the existence of a god that evolution never happened and that we are the way were were created, they are often invalid and basically garbage. I didn't make them that way, thats what they are. I just say it out loud. Sorta. I'd be saying the same things in person I promise that. I'm not saying nobody cant pick apart my beliefs, please do. I challenge them everyday myself and I honestly do it nearly everyday.

of course you are all right, but the whole picture is at some point, you cannot go from simpler to simplest, something will not work. I didn't create that problem, I've seen a show on it.

Castle to a piece of stone...

Its the same principle as what if you would cut something in half forever..at some point it would be impossible.

Impossible how? For you, for scientists? Impossible is relative to the viewer.

I'm not saying I'm right, im just showing the theories of why I don't beleive in creation from zero. A single string of DNA is in itself, very complex, and all living organism has it...now how the most simple life form can be ramdomly created and have all the systems necessary to start the whole evolution tree? its my 2cents.

If you dont believe in creation for zero, which has nothing to do with evolution, then why do you believe in god at all. The bible says the universe was created in 6 days...

Who said I beleived in the bible?

How about another theory, that life always existed, there was always life and will have life forever (on a universe scale), that there was no beginning and will never be an end. Life might be just organism flying from place to place and creating a large tree of evolution wherever it fall. If you think about it, its not anymore stupid than saying that the universe is infinite, which scientist says it is.

You said you did?

This discussion is so off base that its ridiculous. Evolution, isn't an explanation of how life began but how life has changed over the years to what we see today.

Its a real shame alot of people argue dont know what they're arguing against.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Feb 26, 2007 - 8:42 PM