Feb 25, 2007 - 8:52 PM
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I hesitated creating a thread regarding this but this is really the best medium in which many people can talk openly about something w/o much consequence. Plus I'm big on freedom of speech and so here it goes.
Friday night I go and see Damon Wayans stand up. Second time I saw him, and he was pretty funny the first time. This time he wasn't nearly as funny. Mainly because he started attacking anything that wasn't Christian. Oh boy. So he goes on to say that evolution is the stupidest thing he's ever heard and goes about mocking how its ridiculous something just formed and one day hopped out of the water and another day got legs and another day jumped up into a tree and then finally said "I got to get a job" as a human. Hilarious. Oh wait, its not. In fact I was flabberghasted and the level of sheer stupidity emanating from this mans mouth. Evolution is the stupidest thing he's heard? Did he think it happened in 6 days? He then continued to say that atheism is on the rise and its basically got to be stopped and how its horrible not to believe in anything. By now your thinking, where is he going with this? My dilemma which is actually eating at me is how many of you think that evolution isn't real? How many people think that evolution happened overnight; and how many people are under the impression that evolution is just a hypothesis, nothing more than a guess; how many people think atheism is evil? Im genuinely curious. If I dont get any responses to this I'll chalk it up to I wrote too much, you got tired, fell asleep and drooled on your keyboard. I also want to say that if you do decide to respond, you do it in an intelligent, RESPECTFUL manner. I'm not looking for this to get closed because religion is a very very touchy subject. This is primarily for those who have an open mind, and willing to engage in intelligent conversation. Thanks. -------------------- |
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Mar 15, 2007 - 4:40 PM
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basically that the two philosophies come from the same beginnings ever wonder why you adorn that silly hat and robe during the graduation ceremony? educate yourself on the origins of academia
so in summary 1. both science and theology are issues of debate because the facts each utilize are qualifications of numerous similar observations 2. these observations both try and explain phenomena , to a certain degree, and different aspects of the occurrence 3.Both science and religion are faith based ever taken quantum physics? (interpretation and controversy) granted quantum mechanics is at the forefront of science theory but it displays the often overlooked metaphysical undertones in science 4. neither of the philosophies rely on blind faith.. they both have method in the madness based upon the presumptions of defined facts 5. whether science minded or religiously driven the point has always been to come up with answers, many times the conflict only lies in the motivation for the question when the answers differ. Do psychologists and sociologists have arguments over human motivational factors sure. Both however can be right even when their POV's are night and day from each other. 6. The chronic issue flares when one side or the other declares a irrefutable stance in their method.. this happens in every philosophy but those who do it are pushed to the way side by their peers for a lack of intellectual honesty .... you cannot know everything with out omnipotence 7. Lastly to set an example..because everyone wants to know and when we think we know we wanna be right about it... faux pompous intellectuals will through fact after fact in the face of someone who disagrees to prove what? that they are right? unfortunately thats not the case... whether on one side or the other of a debate critically minded individuals should see the relevance of both arguments... intellect is not a devise to subjugate but should be used to educate people... then allow them to make their own interpretation. Those who throw around intellectual clout generally are only trying to fulfill some egocentric deficiency in their view of themselves. rationally keep this in mind when the urge to rant on theories laws and even misconceptions oh and you wanna know what life is all about? -------------------- WAR HAS NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING...EXCEPT FOR THE ENDING OF COMMUNISM, FASCISM, NAZISM, AND SLAVERY.
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Supersprynt Rant on Theories, Laws & Misconceptions Feb 25, 2007 - 8:52 PM
defgeph Evolution. You can't argue with scientific fac... Feb 25, 2007 - 9:11 PM
celicaST evolution is not a theory, its a fact. atheism is ... Feb 25, 2007 - 9:14 PM
snapshotgt The thing that really gets me annoyed is when peop... Feb 25, 2007 - 9:21 PM
Consynx i've gone over this in a 6gc chat before.
the... Feb 25, 2007 - 9:38 PM
NickJames For a person to attack a particular belief is wron... Feb 25, 2007 - 9:59 PM
CelicaBuddy I am an Athiest... Doesnt mean I'm a horrible ... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:07 PM
Jen If you have time (and patience), this is a very in... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:15 PM
NickJames The way that I see it though is that science and r... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:16 PM
Supersprynt I'm agreeing with most of all of your points. ... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:19 PM
NickJames Science does not show things and learn things by p... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:25 PM
Supersprynt Ah yes. See you have fallen into a classic pitfall... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:28 PM
Jen Oh, but Erik if you have the time, it is such a gr... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:30 PM
NickJames but the tesitng and retesting is a search to dispr... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:31 PM
Supersprynt NJ - your a little unfamiliar with the scientific ... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:39 PM
uberschall i am not atheistic. i am agnostic. it is my firm... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:42 PM
Supersprynt Jen - separation of church and state was coined by... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:50 PM
x_itchy_b_x umm the flying angelic beings that people with sma... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:50 PM
OrbitalGT95 QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 26, 2007 - 3... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:39 AM
Consynx got a good bit into video....
goin to bed
will try... Feb 25, 2007 - 10:52 PM
97lestyousay I believe in right and wrong. I see nothing wrong... Feb 25, 2007 - 11:42 PM
j0e_p3t i believe man evolved from monkeys which evolved f... Feb 25, 2007 - 11:47 PM
Supersprynt Evolution doesn't pretend to explain from what... Feb 25, 2007 - 11:49 PM
j0e_p3t QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 25, 2007 - 8... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:06 AM
jgreening Deductive reasoning (the scientific method) is not... Feb 25, 2007 - 11:53 PM
saleeka QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 25, 2007 - 10... Feb 27, 2007 - 2:34 PM
jgreening QUOTE(saleeka @ Feb 27, 2007 - 1:34 ... Feb 27, 2007 - 6:14 PM
saleeka QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 27, 2007 - 5:1... Feb 28, 2007 - 2:23 AM
jgreening QUOTE(saleeka @ Feb 28, 2007 - 1:23 ... Feb 28, 2007 - 10:07 AM
saleeka QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 28, 2007 - 9:0... Feb 28, 2007 - 1:33 PM
jgreening QUOTE(saleeka @ Feb 28, 2007 - 12:33... Feb 28, 2007 - 3:07 PM
jgreening QUOTE(saleeka @ Feb 28, 2007 - 12:33... Feb 28, 2007 - 3:19 PM
97lestyousay My sons step dad told him dinosaurs never existed,... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:01 AM
Supersprynt Agreed. But the big bang is only a hypothesis, if ... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:08 AM
Nate QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 26, 2007 - 5... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:11 AM
97lestyousay QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 25, 2007 - 9... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:31 AM
jgreening QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 25, 2007 - 11... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:51 AM
j0e_p3t QUOTEThis reminds me of a girl who told me that di... Feb 26, 2007 - 12:11 AM
Supersprynt I honestly have no opinion of the big bang theory.... Feb 26, 2007 - 1:10 AM
jgreening QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 26, 2007 - 12... Feb 26, 2007 - 1:17 AM
soven just jump on youtube and search videos by brettkea... Feb 26, 2007 - 1:12 AM
Supersprynt Its not an argument because its 100% opinion.
I... Feb 26, 2007 - 1:23 AM
lagos QUOTE1. If the world was created in a "big ba... Feb 26, 2007 - 4:17 AM
Rayme Now what I'm about to say is very interesting ... Feb 26, 2007 - 5:34 PM
celicaST QUOTE(Rayme @ Feb 26, 2007 - 3:34 PM... Feb 26, 2007 - 5:50 PM
Supersprynt Pardon my haste but, just because you have a hard ... Feb 26, 2007 - 5:45 PM
pepsiman http://www.godexistence.com/five.htm
I am a Chris... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:02 PM
Supersprynt Pepsiman - theres not a single good point in that ... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:11 PM
Rayme of course you are all right, but the whole picture... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:16 PM
Punisher QUOTE(Rayme @ Feb 26, 2007 - 7:16 PM... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:35 PM
Punisher QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 25, 2007 - 8... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:30 PM
Supersprynt QUOTE(Rayme @ Feb 26, 2007 - 7:16 PM... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:36 PM
Rayme QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 26, 2007 - 8... Feb 26, 2007 - 8:12 PM
Supersprynt Punisher - Evolution isnt a "theory" as ... Feb 26, 2007 - 7:45 PM
Punisher QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 26, 2007 - 7... Feb 26, 2007 - 8:06 PM
Supersprynt QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 26, 2007 - 8:06... Feb 26, 2007 - 8:34 PM
Kwanza26 You know Super... people who believe are not gonna... Feb 26, 2007 - 9:03 PM
Rayme Sorry I mixed it, I took in consideration that peo... Feb 26, 2007 - 9:06 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Rayme @ Feb 27, 2007 - 2:06 AM... Feb 26, 2007 - 9:10 PM
Jen Religion was "created" long before ... Feb 27, 2007 - 12:25 AM
Batman722 everyone else is quoting posts...I wanna too...
Q... Feb 27, 2007 - 12:46 AM
jgreening Having let this topic rest on my mind for a day, I... Feb 27, 2007 - 10:48 AM
x_itchy_b_x QUOTE HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE SO FIRMLY CONVINCED ... Feb 27, 2007 - 11:16 AM
hitcachi QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 27, 2007 - 11... Mar 11, 2007 - 10:36 PM
Supersprynt I see what your trying to get at, but your analogi... Feb 27, 2007 - 11:23 AM
hurley97 people like to believe in things. it keeps them go... Feb 27, 2007 - 12:07 PM
playr158 yea i read very little of this but people who have... Feb 27, 2007 - 12:41 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 27, 2007 - 5:41... Feb 27, 2007 - 9:23 PM
Supersprynt QUOTE In science, a theory is a mathematical descr... Feb 27, 2007 - 12:52 PM
playr158 QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 27, 2007 - 12... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:00 PM
x_itchy_b_x why cant creation and evolution coexist? plenty of... Feb 27, 2007 - 12:55 PM
jgreening QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 27, 2007 - 11... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:12 PM
Supersprynt Your right. You cant test evolution like you test ... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:10 PM
playr158 QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 27, 2007 - 1... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:13 PM
jgreening QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 27, 2007 - 12:1... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:18 PM
Supersprynt Exactly right, it doesn't pretend to.
Thats ... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:17 PM
jgreening QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 27, 2007 - 12... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:24 PM
Supersprynt QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 27, 2007 - 1:13... Feb 27, 2007 - 1:20 PM
Jen Ironically, this is what I'm studying in Biolo... Feb 27, 2007 - 9:18 PM
Jen QUOTE(Jen @ Feb 27, 2007 - 9:18 PM) ... Feb 27, 2007 - 9:36 PM
ScoobyDooCruiser I don't claim to be educated enough to give an... Feb 27, 2007 - 10:07 PM
forkee heres my 2 cents
im catholic. i believe in God. i... Feb 28, 2007 - 1:07 AM
playr158 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 27, 2007 - 9:23... Feb 28, 2007 - 1:42 AM
Supersprynt QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 28, 2007 - 1:42... Feb 28, 2007 - 9:41 AM
Supersprynt Thats another misconception: Atheist/Agnostic peop... Feb 28, 2007 - 10:12 AM
Fastbird This is just my personal views.
Religion is not... Feb 28, 2007 - 11:34 AM
cnelson the ONLY problem i have with athemism.. some of my... Mar 11, 2007 - 8:12 PM
x_itchy_b_x eh its interesting thats for sure. Mar 12, 2007 - 12:26 AM
Supersprynt QUOTE(cnelson @ Mar 11, 2007 - 8:12 ... Mar 12, 2007 - 7:04 AM
carb0n_f1b3r man i love you guys...i havent been on this site i... Mar 15, 2007 - 2:00 AM
Supersprynt Whats your point? Mar 15, 2007 - 7:28 AM
saleeka QUOTE(carb0n_f1b3r @ Mar 15, 2007 - 3... Mar 15, 2007 - 8:32 PM
carb0n_f1b3r QUOTE(saleeka @ Mar 16, 2007 - 1:32 ... Mar 15, 2007 - 11:16 PM
Supersprynt You wrote all that so you could try to put theolog... Mar 16, 2007 - 12:01 AM
carb0n_f1b3r *sigh no..... Mar 16, 2007 - 12:40 AM![]() ![]() |
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