Need help deciding if I should sell out...., How can you put up with FWD? Options

[tin_foil]

Lately I've been getting more and more into drag racing, horsepower, autox, drifting and upgrading cars in general. And sadly, my sexy little FWD GT celi just isn't cutting it. Now I'm in a decisional dilemma. For years I wanted a celica because I still think it's by far the nicest looking car of its class. When I first got my car, I had dreams of a 3s swap, and lots of exterior mods. But no matter what, racing a FWD car, no matter how much power at the crank it's got, just can't get that power to the ground well enough. I've played with the idea of an AWD conversion with the celi; I'm not at all daunted by the work, I just don't have 5 grand(+) to sink into it. For that price, I could get a 240sx shell, and drop in a RB26DETT. (that's the skyline engine for those of you that don't know) That would be an amazing car, and it would be crazy fun to drive.

Anyway, I know some of you will say stuff about how could I betray my kind. But I'm curious to hear what those of you that are really car racers and modders say? How can you put up with a celica, no matter how much power you've got under the hood? I love fantasizing about driving up to races with a kick-arse celica, half the people saying, "what's that?" and blow everyone away,(somewhat like tufy, ) but the money required to basically do a full gt4 conversion plus suspension upgrades and bolt-ons is just ridiculous... Should I just sell the black beauty and sink my money into something that can really perform amazing for cheap? Or maybe just save up for another year (maybe more), AWD convert the celica, and get a very good(with awesome handling, and looks), but not really that amazing of a performance car?

[tin_foil]

no, I'm nowhere near a street racer. I didn't mean I was looking for one car that could do all those types of racing really well. I'm not that stupid. Here's what I feel based on my experience: At the moment I've got a b16 swapped CRX with bolt-ons that's getting dang fast, but of course, still can't really hold its own on the strip. I'd need it turbo'd and with slicks before that.(FWD sucks) I recently ran my 3000GT in an autox event. (not completely my car, I'm selling it next week; long story) It was fun, and the car handled fairly well, but I still don't like the feeling of my arse slipping out from behind me when I corner.(once again FWD sucks) And lastly, I've got the celica, which as you say, I realize can make a fairly decent rally or autox car with some suspension mods, but is hardly worth it because FWD STILL sucks.

My whole point is just that pretty much no matter what type of racing you do, AWD or RWD is way better. (I realize this is somewhat personal opinion and others might disagree...but nearly anyone thats actually driven all 3 types would agree with me ) So, I'm just feeling somewhat disappointed with my celica and am considering selling and getting a RWD car......or possibly a AWD conversion, but that's just SO MUCH money for what you get...

This post has been edited by tin_foil: Apr 18, 2007 - 12:42 AM

[macavely]

My whole point is just that pretty much no matter what type of racing you do, AWD or RWD is way better. (I realize this is somewhat personal opinion and others might disagree...but nearly anyone thats actually driven all 3 types would agree with me ) So, I'm just feeling somewhat disappointed with my celica and am considering selling and getting a RWD car......or possibly a AWD conversion, but that's just SO MUCH money for what you get...

I just have to say to that.. I'm one of those people that have been behind the wheel of all three.. they all have their advantages and disadvantages.. the issue with all of them is the driver a good drive will never say one type of car suck. he or she would just fine a way to use the advantages of the car to its full potential. doesn't seam like your doing that with your celi..

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I just have to say to that.. I'm one of those people that have been behind the wheel of all three.. they all have their advantages and disadvantages.. the issue with all of them is the driver a good drive will never say one type of car suck. he or she would just fine a way to use the advantages of the car to its full potential. doesn't seam like your doing that with your celi..

Can I get an AMEN?

I've got a buddy with a 240sx with a SR20DET swap, and he thinks it's great and he's so fast. Well, from stop light to stop light, he can out run me if he shifts right. But any other racing and I would stomp his ass. He's spending laods of money on parts for that thing, and he doesn't even know were the local track is. He just wants it for bragging rights. He's a good guy, but his methidology is a little off. And I'm getting really sick of people who do stuff like he's doing going around talking about how much FWD sucks because they have no idea what they are talking about. I'll try to make this my last post here. I just had one of my buttons pressed and it seems to irritate me everytime I open this thread.

[96bluevert]

I just have to say to that.. I'm one of those people that have been behind the wheel of all three.. they all have their advantages and disadvantages.. the issue with all of them is the driver a good drive will never say one type of car suck. he or she would just fine a way to use the advantages of the car to its full potential. doesn't seam like your doing that with your celi..

Can I get an AMEN?

I've got a buddy with a 240sx with a SR20DET swap, and he thinks it's great and he's so fast. Well, from stop light to stop light, he can out run me if he shifts right. But any other racing and I would stomp his ass. He's spending laods of money on parts for that thing, and he doesn't even know were the local track is. He just wants it for bragging rights. He's a good guy, but his methidology is a little off. And I'm getting really sick of people who do stuff like he's doing going around talking about how much FWD sucks because they have no idea what they are talking about. I'll try to make this my last post here. I just had one of my buttons pressed and it seems to irritate me everytime I open this thread.

Amen!

seriously, I used to have a 240sx, and as fun as RWD can be. my FWD Celica handles soo much better