Need help deciding if I should sell out...., How can you put up with FWD? Options

[tin_foil]

Lately I've been getting more and more into drag racing, horsepower, autox, drifting and upgrading cars in general. And sadly, my sexy little FWD GT celi just isn't cutting it. Now I'm in a decisional dilemma. For years I wanted a celica because I still think it's by far the nicest looking car of its class. When I first got my car, I had dreams of a 3s swap, and lots of exterior mods. But no matter what, racing a FWD car, no matter how much power at the crank it's got, just can't get that power to the ground well enough. I've played with the idea of an AWD conversion with the celi; I'm not at all daunted by the work, I just don't have 5 grand(+) to sink into it. For that price, I could get a 240sx shell, and drop in a RB26DETT. (that's the skyline engine for those of you that don't know) That would be an amazing car, and it would be crazy fun to drive.

Anyway, I know some of you will say stuff about how could I betray my kind. But I'm curious to hear what those of you that are really car racers and modders say? How can you put up with a celica, no matter how much power you've got under the hood? I love fantasizing about driving up to races with a kick-arse celica, half the people saying, "what's that?" and blow everyone away,(somewhat like tufy, ) but the money required to basically do a full gt4 conversion plus suspension upgrades and bolt-ons is just ridiculous... Should I just sell the black beauty and sink my money into something that can really perform amazing for cheap? Or maybe just save up for another year (maybe more), AWD convert the celica, and get a very good(with awesome handling, and looks), but not really that amazing of a performance car?

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

You can say whatever you want about how the cars look on paper and what not, but don't call me ignorant. I've raced, and I've raced a lot. I'm newer into autox, but I've been on the drag strip and dirt track for years. A car on paper is simply that, a car on paper. Look at the Mini Cooper, it looks really bad on paper. But the thing rules. That's just how some stuff is. I understand this is the internet and personal testimonies don't mean jack crap on here, but I know what I know. Jay, you say that FWD sucks and no "dream cars" are FWD. Show me a STS capable RWD car besides the 240sx. Look at the number of race cars out there and find out exactly how many are FWD and how many are RWD. Obviously you won't see any FWD Skylines or Mustangs, but they aren't the only "race" cars out there. The SRT-4, RSX-S, Integra R, Sentra SE-R, Civic Si, and the Celica amongst others have more than proven themselves out there. Jay, you're a smart guy, I just think you’re a little off on this one. Tin_Foil, **** you, man. You're an idiot.

[tin_foil]

Look at the Mini Cooper, it looks really bad on paper. But the thing rules.

Hmmm…
Mini Cooper S specs*:
Turbocharged 1.6L Inline 4
175 hp @ 5500 rpm
177(+15 during overboost) ft-lbs @ 1600 rpm ←(holy crap)
Compression Ratio: 10.5:1
Curb weight: 2668 lbs.
0 – 60 mph. 6.7 sec.
*If you want to see the thing get disgustingly fast, check out the JCW tuning kit.

That don’t look so bad to me…

Look at the number of race cars out there and find out exactly how many are FWD and how many are RWD. Obviously you won't see any FWD Skylines or Mustangs, but they aren't the only "race" cars out there. The SRT-4, RSX-S, Integra R, Sentra SE-R, Civic Si, and the Celica amongst others have more than proven themselves out there.

Alrightly, here’s my list: (sorry if I missed a few, it was thrown together hastily)
FWD:
RSX-X
Civic
Celica
Sentra SE-R
GTI
Corrado VR-6
Eclipse
3000GT(Stealth)
Neon SRT-4
Mini Cooper
Cobalt SS
Tiburon
Integra R(virtually a civic)

RWD:
S2000
M3
Elise
Boxster
Miata
240sx
300zx
350z
RX-7
RX-8
MR2
Supra
Corvette
Mustang
Firebird
Camaro
Viper
GS430
NSX
GTO

AWD:
EVO
WRX STi
Talon
911(some RWD)
A4
3000GT VR-4
Skyline
TT

Well, I definitely see a tread...it seems that in general the nicest, fastest, most expensive sport and racing cars are all RWD or AWD, and pretty much dominate all types of racing.

Tin_Foil, **** you, man. You're an idiot.

Right, buddy, sorry I stepped on your toes by correcting your erroneous comments. Every post makes your inexperience more clear. I suggest you quit while you’re ahead…oh wait…never mind…

This post has been edited by tin_foil: Apr 26, 2007 - 11:42 AM