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post Apr 26, 2007 - 1:14 AM
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Im looking for a home defense shotgun and i've narrowed my choices down to a mossberg 590 and the remington 870...which one is the better gun???

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post Apr 26, 2007 - 2:33 PM
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No offence, but your country is f*cked up frown.gif


uh, better than your ****ty little island


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post Apr 26, 2007 - 3:26 PM
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QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Apr 26, 2007 - 2:33 PM) [snapback]551066[/snapback]

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No offence, but your country is f*cked up frown.gif


uh, better than your ****ty little island



What an intelligent retort.

I personally am happy in the knowledge that almost all of the people i come into contact with do not have access to guns.

Part of the reason you feel the need to protect your home with guns is because it's so easy for every joker to get hold of one to rob you with.

Most of the people in the UK will never see a gun.

I think that's a good thing.


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post Apr 26, 2007 - 4:08 PM
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QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 8:26 PM) [snapback]551097[/snapback]

QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Apr 26, 2007 - 2:33 PM) [snapback]551066[/snapback]

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No offence, but your country is f*cked up frown.gif


uh, better than your ****ty little island



What an intelligent retort.

I personally am happy in the knowledge that almost all of the people i come into contact with do not have access to guns.

Part of the reason you feel the need to protect your home with guns is because it's so easy for every joker to get hold of one to rob you with.

Most of the people in the UK will never see a gun.

I think that's a good thing.


I admit that his reply wasn't particularly intelligent but I think he was not trying to be anything but funny.
To the meat of your arguement - I find it hard to believe that it is much more difficult for criminals in your country to get their hands on a gun. It's probably more expensive but the black market arms dealers are everywhere and in all countries.
I think the day someone breaks in your home at gunpoint and threatens/kills/rapes you or a loved one you will wish you had the right to own one and could have properly defended yourself.
And just for the record - I am not wishing anything bad to happen to you or your family. I sincerly hope nothing ever does. I just want you to understand our POV. Also this is one of the things we Americans are gauranteed as a right and have been since the founding of our country so we will naturally take offense to someone from elsewhere [especially the UK] telling us our country is fcuked up because of something we pride ourselves in. Also we are very sick and tired of people in our own country constantly nagging on about the same issue. It's pretty simple - if you don't wish to own a gun then don't. But don't try to take away the rights of others because you don't agree with them.


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- Davesceli   To all gun owners...i know ur out there   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:14 AM
- - manphibian   No offence, but your country is f*cked up   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:23 AM
- - Rayme   Use your legs and run away!   Apr 26, 2007 - 9:27 AM
- - 95CelicaST   QUOTEUse your legs and run away! If someone b...   Apr 26, 2007 - 10:25 AM
- - Toyoca   if you cant even research a SHOTGUN youre about to...   Apr 26, 2007 - 10:32 AM
- - Davesceli   i just wanted to get the opinion of some of the gu...   Apr 26, 2007 - 11:01 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   for home defense birdshot would be nice large spr...   Apr 26, 2007 - 11:50 AM
- - lagos   wtf are you trying do defend against? if things in...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:02 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2007 - 1:02 PM...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:21 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   RE: To all gun owners...i know ur out there   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:07 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(DSToyo @ Apr 26, 2007 - 1:21 P...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:28 PM
- - 2slow2nervous   alright the remington 870 is great. I personally h...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:31 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   lol when more ppl get guns bad things happen??? Al...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:35 PM
- - DSToyo   i guess its all about your responcibility, but if ...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:32 PM
- - DSToyo   ^ok i see where you are coming from... but dont yo...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:41 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   Well lets see if it came down to leaving responsib...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:42 PM
|- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE(DSToyo @ Apr 26, 2007 - 12:41 ...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:09 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(Mynzeyes @ Apr 26, 2007 - 1:09...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:17 PM
|- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 1...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:23 PM
- - Jen   THIS IS NOT A DEBATE THREAD. SO CUT IT OUT. If you...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:46 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   QUOTE(Jen @ Apr 26, 2007 - 12:46 PM)...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:49 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   ^ Is it your thread? someone's craaaanky. I...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:48 PM
- - DSToyo   i too have only heard good things about remington....   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:55 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(Jen @ Apr 26, 2007 - 1:46 PM) ...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:55 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   my beagel is great protection also lol... Victious...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:02 PM
- - 2slow2nervous   very nice...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:14 PM
- - FreddyTheOthaMeat   I got a kiddo so wife made me get rid of all the g...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:18 PM
- - BLINKYxMUNKEY   I have a Remington 1187 that I love shooting (most...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:28 PM
- - Negative   QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 7...   Apr 26, 2007 - 1:29 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Negative @ Apr 26, 2007 - 6:29...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:18 PM
- - Kwanza26   white people...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:14 PM
- - Davesceli   QUOTE(2slow2nervous @ Apr 26, 2007 - 5...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:15 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   Nope their is nothing wrong with it at all. Infact...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:18 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(Davesceli @ Apr 26, 2007 - 3:1...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 26, 2007 - 3:14...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:17 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Davesceli @ Apr 26, 2007 - 3:1...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:21 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   how about we do it this way.. Find the statistics ...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:27 PM
|- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2007 - 2:21 PM...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:34 PM
- - Davesceli   im not sure about those stats, my family has had g...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:29 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   QUOTE No offence, but your country is f*cked up fr...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:33 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Apr 26, 2007 ...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:35 PM
||- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 26, 2007 - 2:35...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:36 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Apr 26, 2007 ...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:26 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 8...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:53 PM
|- - 2slow2nervous   QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 3...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:53 PM
||- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(2slow2nervous @ Apr 26, 2007 - 8...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:56 PM
||- - Rayme   QUOTE(2slow2nervous @ Apr 26, 2007 - 4...   Apr 27, 2007 - 8:58 AM
|- - Negative   QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 8...   Apr 26, 2007 - 4:08 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Negative @ Apr 26, 2007 - 9:08...   Apr 26, 2007 - 4:33 PM
- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2007 - 2:21 PM...   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:41 PM
- - FlamingCelica   Remington for the win! ~FlamingCelica   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:58 PM
- - Negative   QUOTE(Davesceli @ Apr 26, 2007 - 7:2...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:00 PM
- - 95CelicaST   All this bickering makes me want to listen to some...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:18 PM
- - hitcachi   This is America! We love to go to our fast foo...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:31 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   lol what happens when china attacks, or zombies st...   Apr 26, 2007 - 4:04 PM
- - manphibian   I'm not trying to say your country is wrong, o...   Apr 26, 2007 - 4:28 PM
|- - Negative   QUOTE(manphibian @ Apr 26, 2007 - 9...   Apr 26, 2007 - 4:30 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I skipped most of the pointless bickering and woul...   Apr 26, 2007 - 8:16 PM
- - FlamingCelica   Like my dad always taught me, its better to have i...   Apr 26, 2007 - 9:47 PM
- - m0dd3d1   Here's a little knowledge your way... Gun Sta...   Apr 27, 2007 - 11:33 AM
- - jayi12-15psi   QUOTEWhat an intelligent retort. I guess it was...   Apr 27, 2007 - 5:56 PM
- - Red94Celica   How about a .22 pistol instead of a shotgun   Apr 27, 2007 - 6:28 PM
- - j0e_p3t   yeah, or how about a taser instead? or a bow and a...   Apr 27, 2007 - 6:46 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   Although I am not some kind of hick, the gun is us...   Apr 27, 2007 - 6:49 PM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Apr 27, 2007 ...   Apr 27, 2007 - 9:07 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   I'm patriotic as well, but there's a line ...   Apr 27, 2007 - 10:08 PM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Apr 27, 2007 ...   Apr 27, 2007 - 11:09 PM
- - slvr_celica_GT_816   get a bazooka   Apr 27, 2007 - 10:26 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   Claiming that some groups are superior to others i...   Apr 28, 2007 - 2:31 AM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTEand I like how you put the flag on after 9-11...   Apr 29, 2007 - 11:26 PM
- - giang723   Can everyone chillout please i myself have not us...   Apr 28, 2007 - 10:03 AM
- - Red94Celica   I'm pretty sure that this .22 pistol would int...   Apr 28, 2007 - 4:15 PM
|- - Shocker   22 pistils is great for beind gangster and talking...   Apr 29, 2007 - 10:47 PM
- - carb0n_f1b3r   QUOTE(ILuvMyCelica95 @ Apr 26, 2007 - 5...   Apr 29, 2007 - 9:23 PM
- - b1gr3d   WOW some people are a little too opinionated. i s...   Apr 29, 2007 - 11:02 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   waving your flag does not always equal devotion, i...   Apr 30, 2007 - 10:38 AM


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