To all gun owners...i know ur out there, i need some advice Options

[Davesceli]

Im looking for a home defense shotgun and i've narrowed my choices down to a mossberg 590 and the remington 870...which one is the better gun???

thanks

[jayi12-15psi]

No offence, but your country is f*cked up frown.gif

uh, better than your ****ty little island

[manphibian]

No offence, but your country is f*cked up frown.gif

uh, better than your ****ty little island

What an intelligent retort.

I personally am happy in the knowledge that almost all of the people i come into contact with do not have access to guns.

Part of the reason you feel the need to protect your home with guns is because it's so easy for every joker to get hold of one to rob you with.

Most of the people in the UK will never see a gun.

I think that's a good thing.

[Negative]

No offence, but your country is f*cked up frown.gif

uh, better than your ****ty little island

What an intelligent retort.

I personally am happy in the knowledge that almost all of the people i come into contact with do not have access to guns.

Part of the reason you feel the need to protect your home with guns is because it's so easy for every joker to get hold of one to rob you with.

Most of the people in the UK will never see a gun.

I think that's a good thing.

I admit that his reply wasn't particularly intelligent but I think he was not trying to be anything but funny.
To the meat of your arguement - I find it hard to believe that it is much more difficult for criminals in your country to get their hands on a gun. It's probably more expensive but the black market arms dealers are everywhere and in all countries.
I think the day someone breaks in your home at gunpoint and threatens/kills/rapes you or a loved one you will wish you had the right to own one and could have properly defended yourself.
And just for the record - I am not wishing anything bad to happen to you or your family. I sincerly hope nothing ever does. I just want you to understand our POV. Also this is one of the things we Americans are gauranteed as a right and have been since the founding of our country so we will naturally take offense to someone from elsewhere [especially the UK] telling us our country is fcuked up because of something we pride ourselves in. Also we are very sick and tired of people in our own country constantly nagging on about the same issue. It's pretty simple - if you don't wish to own a gun then don't. But don't try to take away the rights of others because you don't agree with them.

[Kwanza26]

I admit that his reply wasn't particularly intelligent but I think he was not trying to be anything but funny.
To the meat of your arguement - I find it hard to believe that it is much more difficult for criminals in your country to get their hands on a gun. It's probably more expensive but the black market arms dealers are everywhere and in all countries.
I think the day someone breaks in your home at gunpoint and threatens/kills/rapes you or a loved one you will wish you had the right to own one and could have properly defended yourself.
And just for the record - I am not wishing anything bad to happen to you or your family. I sincerly hope nothing ever does. I just want you to understand our POV. Also this is one of the things we Americans are gauranteed as a right and have been since the founding of our country so we will naturally take offense to someone from elsewhere [especially the UK] telling us our country is fcuked up because of something we pride ourselves in. Also we are very sick and tired of people in our own country constantly nagging on about the same issue. It's pretty simple - if you don't wish to own a gun then don't. But don't try to take away the rights of others because you don't agree with them.

I think Americans need to understand OTHER people's point of view more so than others understanding Americans. Ethnocentrism is rampant in this country because we are under the impression "America is number 1" when in fact we're probably not. Being the richest most powerful nation doesn't make a nation a great place to live. We don't treat each other particularly well. The greatness of America, if you look at history, probably died out in the 70's. No doubt we should be prideful, but be prideful in a way that asks "How can we be better" instead of always saying "Why isn't anyone as good".

As far as guns go... yeah... it's in the constitution... but If the fore-fathers could imagine refrigerators and supermarkets... they would probably have excluded that. Hell... if they excluded religion... guns ain't a thing....