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> 3sge beams red top trans code???, i dont think it was an s54 or was it?
post May 16, 2007 - 9:31 PM
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the 3sge red top beams celica came with what kind of tranny? was it an s54? As far as i know no s54's came stock with LSD and ive been told that the beams motor was mated to an lsd trans. if thats the case then it could not have been an s54. So what was it?

also is the input shaft off the tranny the same as a 3sgte trans (e153/alltrac trans i forgot the code for it) or the same as a 5sfe (s54 trans). i would assume it would have the same spline count on the input shaft thats on the 3sgte trans right?

 
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post May 20, 2007 - 9:16 PM
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Straight from the EPC:

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My EPC is the 97 JDM edition, so I dont have info beyond 97, also some of the non-english characters dont come through properly, but you can clearly see the S54 and LSD.

Also, the listing for the E series trans is E56 , E154, though the E154 is the ST205 trans I compared a few parts to the SW20's E153 and found only a few similarities, mostly parts like the diff bearings and oil seals I did find another US vehicle with many more matching parts, including the transmission case,cover, and even the 3rd gear - the 90-93 AE95 Corolla! I'm totally confused now.

Anyways, the part number for the S54 LSD assy is 41301-20190. The diff in the E series trans is 41301-2018, and the standard S54 is 41301-32061. Like I said, the LSD diff wasn't available through the local Toyota channels, but if it's price is anything like the MR2 LSD assy, your looking at around $1600 new (part number 41301-17040).

This did get me thinking about something else, maybe one of our European members can take a look into (hint hint). We know there's an E series trans connected to a FWD celica straight from the factory- maybe the axles for this setup will solve the customization issues when doing the E153 swap?


SveNRG, I cant tell for sure, but it looks like a S54 trans in that picture. The housing for the gear shift forks is a bit larger on the E153 trans for example:
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If you can find any part numbers on yours, I can check the EPC.

This post has been edited by scothaniel: May 20, 2007 - 9:18 PM


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Posts in this topic
- urbandork   3sge beams red top trans code???   May 16, 2007 - 9:31 PM
- - scothaniel   There's an E-series trans available for the 3S...   May 16, 2007 - 10:58 PM
- - urbandork   cool thats what i figured.   May 17, 2007 - 12:07 AM
- - Kwanza26   This is news to me actually. Are you sure?   May 18, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - scothaniel   Show's up with that trans code in my EPC, and ...   May 18, 2007 - 12:54 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(scothaniel @ May 18, 2007 - 5...   May 18, 2007 - 1:00 AM
|- - evneveik   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ May 18, 2007 - 6:00...   May 18, 2007 - 9:23 AM
- - scothaniel   Well, I was wrong! I looked at the EPC again a...   May 20, 2007 - 3:01 PM
- - SveNRG   I have this transmission. Still trying to figure o...   May 20, 2007 - 3:51 PM
- - urbandork   i was told that there were no s54's with lsd i...   May 20, 2007 - 5:58 PM
- - scothaniel   Straight from the EPC: My EPC is the 97 JDM edi...   May 20, 2007 - 9:16 PM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(scothaniel @ May 21, 2007 - 2...   May 28, 2007 - 4:22 PM
- - evneveik   Well, I have a transmission from a Celica st202 SS...   May 22, 2007 - 11:19 AM
- - scothaniel   evneveik, does that trans have a limited slip diff...   May 22, 2007 - 1:05 PM
|- - evneveik   QUOTE(scothaniel @ May 22, 2007 - 6...   May 22, 2007 - 2:36 PM
- - scothaniel   The pic I posted was of an E153.   May 29, 2007 - 12:26 PM
- - Edophus   I have some photo's of my redtop gearbox from ...   May 29, 2007 - 4:54 PM
- - urbandork   QUOTE(scothaniel @ May 29, 2007 - 5...   May 29, 2007 - 9:12 PM
- - Edophus   QUOTE(urbandork @ May 29, 2007 - 9:1...   May 30, 2007 - 6:52 AM


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