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post Aug 20, 2003 - 3:05 AM
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Ok here it is. I am attempting to totally rebuild a 3sgte engine and have it put out around 550 Hp to the wheels.

Now before you I go any further. Anyone who posts a "you cant do it" or "well u gotta have this and that" DONT respond. I am pushing the limits and this hobby wouldnt even be here if people never pushed the limits. So with that all said and done. Here it is

I have not got a definite list of parts yet, but they well mostly consist of HKS.

Please no negative feedback on this. And 550 HP can be done, just look at SupraStores 700HP one. I know thats at the crank but still. Oh and I have read about every single post on this website about the swap and other sites to. Sorry for sounding kinda mean, just everytime I ask a question I get people battering me, and 90% of the time they are legit questions. Everyone should be so luckly to have a website and place to share ideas. So lets not bash anyone anymore. Thanks Coomer for putting up an endless supply of knowledge!

Now since I am going to totally tear apart the motor anyway, and hopefully do an AWD conversion later. It doesnt really matter what clip I get. I want the st205, because it hooks up to an AWD system stock. But at the same time the st185 is so much cheaper. And I can do alot with the extra money I save. Now here is the question:

If I am to rebuilt the engine from the ground-up, including blue-printing, does it really matter which clip I get? The st185 can hook up to an AWD system right?



Thank you all, because I really need your help!!!

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post Sep 2, 2003 - 3:26 AM
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The AWD setup between the 205 and 185 are basically identical. You would need the 205's drive shaft to have the correct lenght, but the 205/185 rear diff assembly is identical. The ST185 and 205 trans are also interchangeable. The gear ratio's are different though so you'd want to decide which is more appealing to you. The 205's trans is slightly stronger with dual and triple syncro's.

Then for the 205 engine - block's are basically the same (though the 205 has an oil filter relocator and slightly lower compression). For 500+ HP, the stock pistons will need to be swapped anyways.

The 205 head is where the power is - better flow design from the throttle body through the exhaust. The 205's TB is 3" and the 185's is 2". BUT - if your looking for 500+ HP, neither will be good enough in its stock format. A Trueleo intake manifold, larger valves and ported / polished head will be a must. With that, it wont matter which head you use!

And when looking for that type of power, the stock ECU's wont cut it, so you'll need a standalone EMS. The stock fuel injectors wont be ale to flow enough either, and the stock CT20B turbo is only good for 300HP (the CT26 is only good for around 260).

So, in reality it doesn't matter which motor you use, because you'll be replacing most of it anyways!


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Posts in this topic
- TunerHawk   550 Hp At The Wheels 3sgte   Aug 20, 2003 - 3:05 AM
- - XSTeknique   The ST185 and ST205 I believe are very similar in ...   Aug 20, 2003 - 3:17 AM
- - TunerHawk   Yeah, I just looked at some graphs and literature ...   Aug 20, 2003 - 3:29 AM
- - macavely   First start off by doing your homework.. read any ...   Aug 20, 2003 - 3:29 AM
- - west_minist   Let me say that 500hp @ the wheel is very possible...   Aug 20, 2003 - 7:02 AM
- - Turbotone   This web site needs updating as Ian is now into th...   Aug 20, 2003 - 12:37 PM
- - Turbotone   Also the Fensport Corolla.... Corolla you scream....   Aug 20, 2003 - 12:41 PM
- - Lar-   I am aiming at the 500hp for my ST205 as well. May...   Aug 20, 2003 - 1:26 PM
- - Junior   I'm not sure about this, but I think the 3sgte...   Aug 20, 2003 - 1:30 PM
- - Lar-   I'm not sure about the valve angle... The thi...   Aug 20, 2003 - 1:48 PM
- - johnnybravo04   The head from a st205 and st165 are infact differ...   Aug 20, 2003 - 6:52 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (johnnybravo04 @ Aug 20, 2003 - 4:52 PM) The...   Aug 20, 2003 - 10:09 PM
- - snadman   You need to research the AWD conversion. It's ...   Aug 20, 2003 - 10:48 PM
- - Pvc99gT   yea dude, u could do 550 with an st205 or an st185...   Aug 21, 2003 - 3:19 AM
- - Toyota_guy31783   Dude, you can do it. You sound motivated enough a...   Aug 21, 2003 - 9:02 AM
- - TunerHawk   Hey thanks alot guys. Yeah, I think I have read en...   Aug 21, 2003 - 9:46 AM
- - Pvc99gT   RHD eh? well.. it CAN be done. it would just be wa...   Aug 21, 2003 - 12:34 PM
- - TunerHawk   Yeah, RHD is what I want. But I will wait until I ...   Aug 21, 2003 - 11:56 PM
- - 1_Winged_Angel   RHD is for mailmen   Aug 22, 2003 - 10:36 AM
- - Pvc99gT   HaHa! you got called a mailman. um... i don...   Aug 22, 2003 - 3:48 PM
- - TunerHawk   Nah, RHD is not only for mailmen, but for adventur...   Aug 24, 2003 - 7:29 AM
- - BlackSTX   I would seriously research the topic of Supras tha...   Aug 25, 2003 - 9:55 AM
- - Coomer   Also, be sure to check out some of the MR2 forums,...   Aug 25, 2003 - 12:29 PM
- - scothaniel   The AWD setup between the 205 and 185 are basicall...   Sep 2, 2003 - 3:26 AM
- - thedevilmaycrie   i guess ill put my cents in to if your serous abou...   Sep 3, 2003 - 12:17 AM


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