3sgte project (target date april), just some general questions Options

[rzanology]

Hey guys, im gearing up for my 3sgte project in april….i know it’s a lil far but I find if you plan a few months ahead you get it right. So my plans are to obtain a 3rd gen 205 clip and have that installed. Im looking for 350hp to the wheel. I’ve a few questions about this though.

1. I was speaking to matt...he had the 4th gen in the turtle…but he told me something that scared me a little….the turbo and manifold are one with that engine. Im all for a newer engine and more power, but I don’t like that idea….what if I want to change my turbo? (and I do have another t3/t4 from my last 5sfte) What if I want to change the manifold to after market for better performance in order to reach my 350hp. But for now its looking like I’ll be sticking to the 3rd gen….unless you guys can show me another way without reinventing the wheel.

2. When the engine is dropped what else will I have to do hardware wise to get as close to the 350 as possible before tuning? I was looking around on ebay and I found some front mounted intercooler kits for the 3sgte for around 600….it came with the intercooler and all the necessary piping needed…the price was a little expensive if you ask me, but if that’s what’s needed then so be it! I also wanted to go fmic because I’ll be using the devils injection kit…from what I understand it works a little better with fmic instead of top mounted. Other than that I’ll be doing the obvious….3 inch piping all around and front to back. Any other thoughts?

3. As far as tuning things go, I’ll be running the devils injection kit, im looking to get the emanage ultimate and a boost controller. Any thing I’m missing?


and before youz start flaming i've been reading for months and i think i have a general idea about whats going on. i just wanted to get thoughts and ideas for MY project.

[SlowCelica94]

#1 confused me a bit. Am I correct in reading you think the turbo and manifold are one peice, casted to the block?

What tranny are you going to run to support the power? Is the IC kit for a mr2 or celica?

I hate to say it, but I don't think you know what you're getting into. I could be wrong tho, maybe I just didn't grasp your post too well.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

#1 confused me a bit. Am I correct in reading you think the turbo and manifold are one peice, casted to the block?

"The turbochargers used in the 3S-GTE engines are Toyota designs. The first and second generations used the Toyota CT26, although the second-generation turbo was modified for increased reliability. The third-generation engine uses the Toyota CT20b turbo, and the fourth uses a proprietary CT20b turbocharger whose exhaust housing is actually cast into the cylinder exhaust manifold, rather than the normal practice of a separate exhaust housing after the cylinder exhaust manifold and it can only be used on the 4th Gen 3sgte head and not backwards compatible like the CT20b of the 3rd Gen 3sgte."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_S_engine

...although I was under the impression that the turbochargers were actually a Yamaha design.