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post Jul 22, 2007 - 11:30 PM
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Hey guys, im gearing up for my 3sgte project in april….i know it’s a lil far but I find if you plan a few months ahead you get it right. So my plans are to obtain a 3rd gen 205 clip and have that installed. Im looking for 350hp to the wheel. I’ve a few questions about this though.

1. I was speaking to matt...he had the 4th gen in the turtle…but he told me something that scared me a little….the turbo and manifold are one with that engine. Im all for a newer engine and more power, but I don’t like that idea….what if I want to change my turbo? (and I do have another t3/t4 from my last 5sfte) What if I want to change the manifold to after market for better performance in order to reach my 350hp. But for now its looking like I’ll be sticking to the 3rd gen….unless you guys can show me another way without reinventing the wheel.

2. When the engine is dropped what else will I have to do hardware wise to get as close to the 350 as possible before tuning? I was looking around on ebay and I found some front mounted intercooler kits for the 3sgte for around 600….it came with the intercooler and all the necessary piping needed…the price was a little expensive if you ask me, but if that’s what’s needed then so be it! I also wanted to go fmic because I’ll be using the devils injection kit…from what I understand it works a little better with fmic instead of top mounted. Other than that I’ll be doing the obvious….3 inch piping all around and front to back. Any other thoughts?

3. As far as tuning things go, I’ll be running the devils injection kit, im looking to get the emanage ultimate and a boost controller. Any thing I’m missing?


and before youz start flaming i've been reading for months and i think i have a general idea about whats going on. i just wanted to get thoughts and ideas for MY project.
 
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post Jul 24, 2007 - 12:01 PM
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the stock bottom end should hold it fine. granted your positive the bottom end is in good condition. i had alot of blow by at 330whp and the turbo was only at 14.5psi my piston rings had seen way better days so did my cylinder walls. if your positive everything is in good shape then you'll be fine.

Unfortunately i took for granted mine were fine. i don't want to have to go through this again and be without the celica for another season so i just went all out building the bottom end that can handle 600-700hp to be on the safe side. will I ever use it to its full potential? Doubtful, but its a good piece of mind.

depending how far you want to go on modifications should be the deciding factor between a gen2 and a gen3. almost every part that would distinguish a gen2 from a gen3 on my engine has been changed. so there was no need to get a gen3. but if you only plan on mild mods to get to your hp goal a gen3 would be a better route.


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- rzanology   3sgte project (target date april)   Jul 22, 2007 - 11:30 PM
- - SlowCelica94   #1 confused me a bit. Am I correct in reading you ...   Jul 23, 2007 - 1:56 PM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jul 23, 2007 - 7...   Jul 23, 2007 - 2:25 PM
- - playr158   in the ST215 the Turbo and exhaust manifold are 1 ...   Jul 23, 2007 - 2:19 PM
- - Culpable04   .,,   Jul 23, 2007 - 2:19 PM
- - SlowCelica94   Thanks Dave!   Jul 23, 2007 - 2:32 PM
- - rzanology   well player i was hoping i could get that...if i h...   Jul 23, 2007 - 2:56 PM
- - Gary   Ceramic turbine won't last long at that much b...   Jul 23, 2007 - 3:02 PM
- - CaliJeff   i think if you we're really gonna achieve that...   Jul 23, 2007 - 4:08 PM
- - Culpable04   take a look at this set-up. x Itchy b x you can...   Jul 23, 2007 - 6:23 PM
- - lagos   bigger turbo (street brawler kit, gt2871, etc..) b...   Jul 23, 2007 - 7:20 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 23, 2007 - 7:20 PM...   Jul 23, 2007 - 8:43 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(toyotacrazy @ Jul 23, 2007 - 9...   Jul 23, 2007 - 9:22 PM
- - rzanology   im not willing to go past 350...the street brawler...   Jul 24, 2007 - 5:47 AM
- - Gary   other options TD06 20G and GT28RS. http://www.atsr...   Jul 24, 2007 - 10:14 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   the stock bottom end should hold it fine. granted ...   Jul 24, 2007 - 12:01 PM
|- - rzanology   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Jul 24, 2007 - 1...   Jul 24, 2007 - 5:07 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   the 4th gen st215 manifold is actually a nice flow...   Jul 24, 2007 - 5:25 PM
- - pitcelica   If you want to upgrade the stock CT20b on a 4th ge...   Jul 26, 2007 - 1:08 PM


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