what i have noticed with neon strut bar Options

[95st-celica]

well, i just recently bought a neon strut bar off of ebay...came to like $18 and wasnt to happy with it when i first got it because i had to pre fab my own 3 holes...none lined up at all....but anyway i got it taken care of and it fit nice and snug....it's actually quite nice and it looks good in the engine bay.....anyway...after puttin it on and driving around with it for a while now i noticed the car is much tighter...so much that i cant take turns as fast as i use to because my @ss end is kickin out...never noticed this before i put it in.....so now im thinkin do i take it back out because it was better with it out and i could stay into the turn?? or do i get either a rear sway bar or a rear strut bar to cancle the front one out.....has anyone noticed or fixed this problem who has had one of these strut bars put in may it be a trd front strut bar or just a regular neon one?? im defentally gettin somethin in the @ss end but would a sway bar be too much or can a rear strut bar fix the problem? also where to go to get a rear strut bar if that is the case? i had a big bag of sement put in the back of my car too and that help fix the problem with the extra weight back there but i dont want to lug that around with me all the time...any sugestions? thanks

[lubu]

playr wasnt wrong when he said inertia, when u make the turn the front half of the car turns and follows the new direction but the rear will still keeps on going straight because you only apply the force to the front wheels not the rear's (thus inertia).

To not swings out you must stop its momentum, and momentum is defined by mass and velocity, (since you increase mass at the rear end by cement ur momentum is higher than before),

Now if you want to visualise then consider this:
a trailer is connected to ur car, you are going at 75 mph and making a turn, at the exact moment of the turn the trailer got disconnected and it continues to go straight, let say for another 100m.
Now the same setup only this time you the trailer is loaded with a bag of cement. Same thing happened but the trailer only traveled 80 m this time.

The reason that you think the bag of the cement work?? well it doesnt, in reality ur momentum is much higher now, ur rear end is going "slower" (and you think its tighter at turns) because of the extra weight and thus more fuel are needed to pull that weight.

U talked abt go-kart and launching..thats completely off topic. Go-karts are totally different to car, they are short in lenght and hence have exellent cornering, they required extra weight because the body shell themselves are not heavy enough. Launching on the other hand is irrelavent, we are talking ur car IN motion and taking a turn.

Things that you can do, better tires, rear strut bar, better suspension, awd conversion?? . But keep on mind that ur car is a fwd you cannot apply a force to the rear end and its ALWAYS gonna slide (or swings)..Im not sure if all this info are correct, my physics is really rusty atm...but what ever you do, drive safe.