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post Oct 6, 2007 - 10:32 PM
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Guys I just wanted to say that if you ever go to the auto part store and buy any spark plugs or filters and ETC.
Stay away from Bosch products (Minus the O2 sensor since we can't find anything else)

The worst spark Plugs you can ever, EVER buy are BOSCH platinums with the dumb looking 2,3,4 tips.
These are terrible, suck a55 and will bog down your engine like no tomorrow especially when going up hills and high end reviving.

I would explain my theory on these crappy a55 spark plugs but Don't want to bored you guys. So i will save my explai-nation.

BOSCH sucks at spark-plugs.

CRAP ----->>>> IPB Image

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post Oct 8, 2007 - 11:46 PM
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Ok So BOSCH has 4 tips right? ->> I will call these Ground Tips

Ordinary plugs that were first created had only 1 Ground Tip.

Well the Theory why BOSCH performs so bad in HIGH performance engines / Import engines is that the 4 Ground tips actually block out most of the gas and air that is shooting up the cylinders when the piston is going up.

PLUS the way the Iridium tip of the BOSCH plug is designed is that it’s actually enclosed within a barrier that is heat resistant and electrical insulated to prevent accidental grounding. (Hence the white barrier surrounding on the tiny metal spark tip).
This spark tip is so small that it has a very hard time in transferring the electrical currents to the 4 ground points (if 1 couldn’t do it why 4?). Not only is the Plug easily fouled by a high concentration of GAS and AIR mixture. It is trapped in between the 4 tips making it harder to spark, as GAS and AIR is moving. In a 1 Tip design GAS and Air is trapped only by 1 side so therefore it can escape the to other sides making it easier to ignite the cylinder.

The 4 ground tips provide multiple signals to ground which weakens the charge of electricity because the spike from the spark tip would flow either to 1, 2 ,3 or all 4 ground tips which lessons the power to combust an cylinder. --> This results in a weak spark.
It’s really Quality not Quantity. A single tip would produce a powerful spike and ignite the cylinder. There would only be 1 way to get to ground and all that energy must take that route.
Its as simple as choosing 4 paths to take and fighitng over it which goes to the same place or 1 path which forces everyone to the place.

This is just my Theory and It hasn’t even been tested yet, but a simulation or something would prove it quite right since BOSCH sucks anyway.

Diagrams and Photos soon to come when Im free in time.


QUOTE(TRD_GT @ Oct 8, 2007 - 11:40 PM) [snapback]603166[/snapback]

Whats better? NGK Plugs or the Denso Iridiums,coz i have the denso's in my car..looking to get NGKs now since everyones been hyping them up so much..but don't really know how much of a difference they will make..

cheers lads..



I like the Densos they look rather aggressive with the super sharp pointy Iridium tip. Overall I haven't gotten into much problems with the Densos nor the NGK's so anything would be fine as long as its these two.

Denso's do have Japanese writing all over them....Intresting

Posts in this topic
- soulshadow   Tuneups- STAY away from Bosch   Oct 6, 2007 - 10:32 PM
- - LewFX   always use ngk or denso   Oct 6, 2007 - 10:38 PM
- - xs94st   i agree..i pulled those bastards outta my 7afe NG...   Oct 7, 2007 - 1:17 AM
- - easternpiro1   I was always told NGK... ANYTHING ELSE is UNCIVILI...   Oct 7, 2007 - 1:36 AM
- - MaskedMan   Yeah for some reason Toyota cars run really bad wi...   Oct 7, 2007 - 1:37 AM
- - laff09   They produce too high of a temperature spark.   Oct 7, 2007 - 2:42 AM
- - cHinaman727   which ngk's do i get for a 5sfe? 94 btw   Oct 7, 2007 - 9:26 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(laff09 @ Oct 7, 2007 - 3:42 AM...   Oct 7, 2007 - 10:27 AM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 7, 2007 - 10:27...   Jan 11, 2008 - 12:59 PM
- - LewFX   bosch is for american cars anyways, always trust j...   Oct 7, 2007 - 10:29 AM
- - Rayme   I once bought bosch wipers...was crap..seems like ...   Oct 7, 2007 - 10:45 AM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE(soulshadow @ Oct 6, 2007 - 10...   Oct 7, 2007 - 7:36 PM
- - rjbibeau   i think anything german is crap...including their ...   Oct 8, 2007 - 2:34 PM
- - GriffGirl   For those NGK plugs, which material? There's q...   Oct 8, 2007 - 3:04 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Oct 8, 2007 - 1:04...   Oct 8, 2007 - 6:23 PM
- - frosty   hmmm... not saying anyone is wrong but I'm usi...   Oct 8, 2007 - 7:17 PM
- - stephen_lee   i Agree with Frosty. i have the 4+ plugs and haven...   Oct 8, 2007 - 11:12 PM
- - TRD_GT   Whats better? NGK Plugs or the Denso Iridiums,coz ...   Oct 8, 2007 - 11:40 PM
- - soulshadow   Ok So BOSCH has 4 tips right? ->> I will cal...   Oct 8, 2007 - 11:46 PM
- - creis   I use bosch plugs on my impreza, had them just und...   Oct 9, 2007 - 12:00 AM
- - frosty   Alright, I was going to pick apart your reply soul...   Oct 9, 2007 - 9:03 AM
- - phonex98   its not all wrong... he's very right with the ...   Oct 9, 2007 - 9:34 AM
- - playr158   i just want to say....lol all spark plug electrode...   Oct 9, 2007 - 9:58 AM
- - Komail   Someone should go run a dyno chart haha   Oct 9, 2007 - 9:59 AM
- - Redline08   dyno chart? to prove a spark plug dispute? a waste...   Oct 9, 2007 - 10:58 AM
- - slvr_celica_GT_816   i have the platuim 2s in mine   Oct 9, 2007 - 9:00 PM
- - soulshadow   Guys help yourself into picking apart my theory. ...   Oct 9, 2007 - 11:30 PM
- - GriffGirl   NGK does make O2 sensors, they're called NTK. ...   Oct 25, 2007 - 3:13 PM
- - DEATH   FYI - Denso makes NGK [and Champion for that matte...   Jan 11, 2008 - 9:25 AM
- - Rusty   I'm off to get my TRD Iridiums, now...lol (thi...   Jan 11, 2008 - 3:18 PM
- - thespacepanda   They are the same. Havok just bought a new set of ...   Jan 11, 2008 - 6:46 PM
- - woatherekilla   Ok ok guys.. I jump on the band wagon of bosh plug...   Jan 11, 2008 - 7:56 PM
- - Rusty   had a mix up at toyota (so I only got 1 plug inste...   Jan 12, 2008 - 12:24 AM
- - Zelstin   I put bosch +4's in my 7a and had positive res...   Jan 12, 2008 - 1:15 AM
- - hongkongnerdboy   i was wondering why they worked good for like the ...   Jan 12, 2008 - 1:23 AM
- - Celica-Boy   I've got some new Bosch +4's in my ST202 3...   Jan 12, 2008 - 1:58 PM
- - Rusty   anyone know the gap?   Jan 13, 2008 - 12:02 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(Rusty @ Jan 12, 2008 - 9:02 PM...   Jan 13, 2008 - 2:49 AM
- - Rusty   tsk tsk, not off the top of your head?   Jan 14, 2008 - 12:31 AM
- - dagreat1   i just picked up some bosch plugs... so they aren...   Jan 29, 2008 - 2:33 AM
- - thespacepanda   Gaps for usdm: 5sfe (gt) - 1.1mm 7afe (st) - 0.8m...   Jan 29, 2008 - 6:34 PM
- - Nemises   bosch isint bad. Its just not for jap cars. German...   Feb 1, 2008 - 9:50 AM


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