3s vs 4g, are we no match? Options

[Shigexile]

whats the deal with the 4g63? is the evo's engine so much better than our gt-four's engine? they're both 2.0, 4-cyl, single turbo, how are the mechanics of the internal? does the 4g have better internals for more output or what?

Like if there was a 4g swapped lancer and a 3s swapped gt/st, what do you think the results will be?

the reason i ask is, i know a evo owner and adding simple things to his 4g adds so much ps and it frightens me... with a street tune up, evo mr turbo or some sort of turbo upgrade, and exhaust, along with other minor things and he's hitting 450ps. us 6gc'ers with the 3s swap is working hard and going through so much trouble and still only hitting little over 300ps.... Is the 4g that much better? i feel great jealousy... i want to cry a little...

does anyone know the stock psi of the 4G in the 8 compared to the 3S in the 205? could this be something i should take into consideration?

[97sccelica]

The latest 4g63 runs 18psi stock.. the 3rd gen 3sgte runs.. uh i think 12?

the evo 9's run 21psi stock, not 18.

evo 8's get up to 20psi

tuned with a turbo back exhaust, its safe to run both the 8's and 9's at 22-23psi on california 91 octane

i havent seen the internals of a 3sgte in person, but i took apart an evo8 engine last night. the block is of good design, and the main caps are incorporated into a girdle for the bottom of the block. many people add similar girdles to their engines(v8 engines from my experience) to improve strength. evo's 4g63 already has that. the rods looked like a strong design. the ring lands on the stock pistons were also big, huge in comparison to subaru engines. the cylinder head is also very well designed with smooth flowing ports.

but it has been said earlier in the thread. the main reason why evo's react so well to simple mods is the turbo, its pretty damn big for a stock turbo.