1.8L power?, any ideas on power Options

[st18]

i have a 1.8L and im not looking to make a swap. i want so bad to show that this little beast has power i plan a lot of do it my self modifications (worked as a machinist for a little while ) any ideas to get me started? if u look at my profile you'll see the little i all ready have.

[presure2]

meh, for that kind of cash, i would just do the normal I,E, a couple degrees of timing advance, and throw in some cams
i would bet that would net you ~125-130whp, which out of a n/a 7a, wouldnt be bad at all, and would make the 7a feel much more "alive"
cheaper, and less hassle.

[Kwanza26]

meh, for that kind of cash, i would just do the normal I,E, a couple degrees of timing advance, and throw in some cams
i would bet that would net you ~125-130whp, which out of a n/a 7a, wouldnt be bad at all, and would make the 7a feel much more "alive"
cheaper, and less hassle.

I doubt 120-130whp... 120whp if you're lucky... but what then? At least with a 20V you have potential there to spin the engine for additional power, and various cam/piston options to work with. With a 7A... it's boost or nothing.

BTW... prices for a 20V swap can vary depending on how much you know and who you ask. 20V motor sets can range anywhere from 500-800 dollars, calculate in what you know and what you're capable of and that's your starting point. A front clip is NOT needed for this swap because there is plenty of documentation and substitutes for various parts.

[presure2]

meh, for that kind of cash, i would just do the normal I,E, a couple degrees of timing advance, and throw in some cams
i would bet that would net you ~125-130whp, which out of a n/a 7a, wouldnt be bad at all, and would make the 7a feel much more "alive"
cheaper, and less hassle.

I doubt 120-130whp... 120whp if you're lucky... but what then? At least with a 20V you have potential there to spin the engine for additional power, and various cam/piston options to work with. With a 7A... it's boost or nothing.

BTW... prices for a 20V swap can vary depending on how much you know and who you ask. 20V motor sets can range anywhere from 500-800 dollars, calculate in what you know and what you're capable of and that's your starting point. A front clip is NOT needed for this swap because there is plenty of documentation and substitutes for various parts.

pistons/cams...then what bee...same thing as the 7a. boost.
btw, i DID say..120whp..-130...LMAO
the silvertop is no big deal IMO...if your gonna swap, swap in a 3s, and be done with it.

[Kwanza26]

pistons/cams...then what bee...same thing as the 7a. boost.
btw, i DID say..120whp..-130...LMAO
the silvertop is no big deal IMO...if your gonna swap, swap in a 3s, and be done with it.

Granted in the end if you want 200+ whp you'll want to go turbo in both cases... but if you're content with say 180whp... the 4AG is the way to go IMO.

I would swap a 16v 4a before a silvertop, the small port makes almost as much power
stock, and aftermarket parts are much more available for the 16v.

I'd have to argue 16V parts are cheaper... but as far as parts quantity in general... both engines have a LOT of parts available. The argument between 20V and 16V goes like this. 20V has ITBs, under bucket shims, more valve surface overall, and is newer. The 16V will at least need a full valvetrain upgrade in order to compete... so IMO, 20V is vastly superior overall.

[Sinyk]

This thread got so off track. Always sounds like people have thousands and thousands of dollars just lying around in piles ready to be spent.

How much are you looking to spend st18? I think you should figure out te limit you are comfortable spending before making too many plans. Some upgrades could cost you a lot (like all these swaps people are talking about )

[st18]

This thread got so off track. Always sounds like people have thousands and thousands of dollars just lying around in piles ready to be spent.

How much are you looking to spend st18? I think you should figure out te limit you are comfortable spending before making too many plans. Some upgrades could cost you a lot (like all these swaps people are talking about )

maybe 1000 and no disrespect but to the people that keep saying make a swap i dont want to i want to do some thing outside the normal and show that this little 1.8 can a will produce some power this is a forum to get me started on that journey to show the st 1.8 can a will be a beast we all have are dreams as car lovers and we need something new on the 1.8 and i would like all the help i can get cause the little time i've spent here i see this isn't a one man show and this is from the heart of a celica lover