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post Sep 25, 2003 - 3:08 AM
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I talked to a local mechanic not too long ago about the infamous 3S-GTE swap and he suggested something a little different. He said that instead of using a 3S-GTE, use a 3S-GE and beef up the bottom end and boost that. This engine is bigger (2.2 compared to 2.0) and puts out better torque, especially in the low-end range. He said that they haven't done this in any Celicas, but they have in several MR2 turbos and it worked better than building up a 3S-GTE.
Let me know if anybody has tried this or what you think about it.
 
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post Sep 25, 2003 - 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (BigEdge169 @ Sep 25, 2003 - 2:08 AM)
I talked to a local mechanic not too long ago about the infamous 3S-GTE swap and he suggested something a little different. He said that instead of using a 3S-GTE, use a 3S-GE and beef up the bottom end and boost that. This engine is bigger (2.2 compared to 2.0) and puts out better torque, especially in the low-end range. He said that they haven't done this in any Celicas, but they have in several MR2 turbos and it worked better than building up a 3S-GTE.
Let me know if anybody has tried this or what you think about it.

ya man i dont think your mechanic knows what he is talking about...the 3s-ge is a 2 liter engine has like LESS torque than the 3S-GTE

3S-GE 2.0 liter with VVT-I has 197 Horsepower @7000 RPM
3S-GE 2.0 liter with VVT-I has 152 lb ft of torque at 6000 RPM

3rd gen 3S-GTE 2.0 liter has 251 Horsepower @6000 RPM
3rd gen 3S-GTE 2.0 liter has 225 lb ft of torque 4000 RPM

2nd gen 3S-GTE 2.0 liter has 225 Horsepower @6000 RPM
2nd gen 3S-GTE 2.0 liter has 200 lb ft or torque @ 4000 RPM


that looks to me like they are the same size and the 3s-gte has MORE power and since its about the same cost as a 3S-GE with VVT-i would be

your mechanic also said that the 3s-ge has better torque in the low end range which AGAIN he is wrong.


I dont see why you would spend EXTRA money building up the bottom end of a HIGH compression engine when if you saved that money for parts for the 3s-gte then you would have way more power and more stability.

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- BigEdge169   A slightly different approach to the turbo   Sep 25, 2003 - 3:08 AM
- - doGGy   You mean 5S-FE, cuz 3S-GE has 2l...   Sep 25, 2003 - 3:46 AM
- - Jabberwock   I'm probably going to do the 5SFE setup and fo...   Sep 25, 2003 - 3:54 AM
- - macavely   ok how about this for us ST(7afe) owners... seeing...   Sep 25, 2003 - 6:03 AM
- - BigEdge169   No, he did say 3S not 5, that's why I was aski...   Sep 25, 2003 - 11:20 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (macavely @ Sep 25, 2003 - 4:03 AM) ok how a...   Sep 25, 2003 - 1:21 PM
- - 1bwilson   You can use a 5sfe short block with forged pistons...   Sep 25, 2003 - 6:23 PM
- - Matthew   QUOTE (BigEdge169 @ Sep 25, 2003 - 2:08 AM) I talk...   Sep 25, 2003 - 10:08 PM
- - FallenHero   Thus the age old question: Do I want a really pow...   Sep 25, 2003 - 10:33 PM
- - BigEdge169   That's all I wanted to know, and it lets me kn...   Sep 26, 2003 - 1:47 AM
- - boosted_K2   QUOTE (BigEdge169 @ Sep 26, 2003 - 1:47 AM) That...   Sep 26, 2003 - 2:03 AM
- - BigEdge169   Does anyone know of any good shops in the Houston ...   Sep 26, 2003 - 2:09 AM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Sep 25, 2003 - 11:21 AM) QUOTE...   Sep 26, 2003 - 10:43 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   go the 3sgte route.. fallenhero made a very good p...   Sep 26, 2003 - 12:53 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 26, 2003 - 9:53 AM) BTW 6ps...   Sep 26, 2003 - 1:11 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   yea I understand the point your making there.. and...   Sep 26, 2003 - 8:33 PM
- - FallenHero   Just buy a 4age black top for 3 grand and be happy...   Sep 26, 2003 - 9:21 PM
- - snadman   I'm changing my ways right now. The 3SGTE is t...   Sep 27, 2003 - 1:09 AM
- - Matthew   if you get JUN's stroker kit (like i have) you...   Sep 27, 2003 - 1:55 AM
- - 97sccelica   i understand, but 6psi isnt that high and so long ...   Sep 27, 2003 - 4:02 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 26, 2003 - 5:33 PM) yea 6ps...   Sep 27, 2003 - 4:19 AM


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