Bremo Brakes..on 6g Options

[lubu]

I found these on eBay, but are they bolt-on or do I need to modify them to fit...btw does the price sounds right??

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This post has been edited by lubu: Nov 14, 2007 - 2:45 AM

[presure2]

have you guys even looked at the price of new GT-4 brake disks?
theyre REDICULUSLY expensive.
not worth the work IMO.

[Kadett]

have you guys even looked at the price of new GT-4 brake disks?
theyre REDICULUSLY expensive.
not worth the work IMO.

Have you ever driven or ride along with someone who has them on a ST/GT? Guess not, I did with SveNRG (AT200 3rd gen swap+ SS+GT4 front brakes). Its a MASSIVE improvement over stock.

Its the closest thing you can get as a 'Big Brake Kit'. If you already have the calipers then I would say go for the install and get the rotors.

But I dont know what you would call expensive. They cost around 150 euro per side. Dont think its that expensive.

[Kwanza26]

Have you ever driven or ride along with someone who has them on a ST/GT? Guess not, I did with SveNRG (AT200 3rd gen swap+ SS+GT4 front brakes). Its a MASSIVE improvement over stock.

Its the closest thing you can get as a 'Big Brake Kit'. If you already have the calipers then I would say go for the install and get the rotors.

Unless you race the car everyday... it's really just a VISUAL modification. Who cares if the car has awesome brakes when all you use it for is stop/go traffic and driving around town? I bet I'll stop the same as you in traffic from 50mph to 20mph...

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Have you ever driven or ride along with someone who has them on a ST/GT? Guess not, I did with SveNRG (AT200 3rd gen swap+ SS+GT4 front brakes). Its a MASSIVE improvement over stock.

Its the closest thing you can get as a 'Big Brake Kit'. If you already have the calipers then I would say go for the install and get the rotors.

Unless you race the car everyday... it's really just a VISUAL modification. Who cares if the car has awesome brakes when all you use it for is stop/go traffic and driving around town? I bet I'll stop the same as you in traffic from 50mph to 20mph...

I think thats generalizing things quite a bit, Kwanza. I don't think that too many of us with swaps or turbo just putt around town like a grandma. At least I don't anyway.

With my 3rd gen 3SGTE, as well as any Celica with a significant power upgrade , you can feel that the brakes are at the threshold of their effectiveness. I have IRotors D/S on all four corners with Hawk autocross compound brake pads, and they still just BARELY cut it as far as I'm concerned.

If you look at the balance of a swapped USDM Celica compared to a factory tuned configuration like a STi or Evo, the Celica needs a great suspension tune, sticky tires, and more powerful brakes to have the same sort of balance that those cars achieve. With comparable thrust to both, a swapped Celica just won't stop like it should when it only has single-piston calipers from the factory.


It awesome to see some answers regarding using the ST205 brakes....thats really good knowledge for anybody who wants to make their car really stop well.

[OOBE]

I don't think that too many of us with swaps or turbo just putt around town like a grandma. At least I don't anyway.

With my 3rd gen 3SGTE, as well as any Celica with a significant power upgrade , you can feel that the

That made me laugh. I imagined one of those cars from Looney Tunes.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

I've been following this thread with interest. I find that while the brakes on my 6gc are good - I can come to a stop very quickly, I do rather have to stamp on them to make that happen. From what others have said, it sounds like the GT4 factory brakes offer a sharper, more positive feel.

Given that the GT4 is more powerful, but not hugely more powerful, than the GT with 3SGE engine, one would assume that the GT4 brakes on a GT with 3SGE would be a fairly good match (that is, getting the brakes up to temperature would be similar between the two). However, due to the differing suspensions, a straight swap is difficult. So to extrapolate, it would seem that any brakes that are close in specification to the GT4 brakes but are a more straight-forward fit would benefit the GT with 3SGE engine.

Now I know that a lot of people don't have 3SGE engines, but just bear with me for the moment as I don't want to complicate things too early.

So my questions are: are there any flaws in my logic; and if I wanted to upgrade my brakes to something close to the factory GT4 specification but choosing aftermarket parts that are more of a straightforward install than the actual GT4 parts - what are my options?

[lubu]

I find that while the brakes on my 6gc are good - I can come to a stop very quickly, I do rather have to stamp on them to make that happen.

Im asumming you mean "cant"??

With any other brake kits I would think that you'll run into problems like mounting, offsets...etc..etc.

But dont you wanna keep it all Toyota, more importantly celica?

[BloodyStupidDave...]

I find that while the brakes on my 6gc are good - I can come to a stop very quickly, I do rather have to stamp on them to make that happen.

Im asumming you mean "cant"??

Actually. I did mean "can". I can stop quickly, but kinda have to stomp on the break - almost an emergency stop - to make that happen. I know it isn't comparing like with like, but on many small hot hatches the brakes are very "sensitive" - just pressing the brake lightly and you are pretty much thrown through the windscreen

With any other brake kits I would think that you'll run into problems like mounting, offsets...etc..etc.

But dont you wanna keep it all Toyota, more importantly celica?

Not if that means getting custom brackets manufactured, parts skimmed by 1/4" and so on as some people have suggested. I think I just want a 'kit' that is easy to install that makes the brakes feel more responsive, less spongy.

This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Dec 7, 2007 - 8:29 AM