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post Nov 29, 2007 - 3:32 PM
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has anyone done or think about doing a 2zz-ge swap to a 99 celica gt? i was looking at my brothers corolla xrs's motor mounts and both the motor mounts seems to be simular.. i think it can be done but will it pass smog and emission test?
 
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post Dec 9, 2007 - 9:48 PM
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QUOTE(Team_yoda @ Dec 5, 2007 - 10:36 AM) [snapback]619884[/snapback]

& actually you cant really resleave the 2zz. its a cast iron impregnated aluminum block, you'll ruin it. I work for toyota i know.



The 2zz-ge actually has an aluminum w/metal matrix composite lined cylinder block. The 1zz has the cast iron liner.

the 2zz was designed to
  1. provide high speed performance
  2. retain low speed flexibility
  3. maintain same bore pitch as base engine (to keep same outer dimensions)
  4. maintain same emission standard as base engine target TLEV
  5. achieve best power to weight ratio in the field.

2zz is a sporty, compact, lightweight, high power, and flexible engine.

Takasuke Shikida, Yoshikatsu Nakamura, Tamio Nakakubo
and Hiroyuki Kawase. Development of the High Speed 2ZZ-GE Engine 2000-01-0671
_____________________________________

what are 1/4 mi times for a swapped 3s vs the 1/4 mi times for a 7th gen?

7th gen times from newcelica.org
http://www.newcelica.org/other/tracktimes/...?sort=celicagts

from an old web page that toysport has up
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Inform..._tech_notes.htm
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The aluminum block is hefty and casted really clean. It will allow the engine to produce massive horsepower over stock. Dimensionally they are bigger than the 4AGE, the engine family it is superceding. Block strengthening is possible, by pinning the cylinders to stabilize the bores. The crank is a lightweight design and so are the rods. The crank and rods are casted really well, stress-relief and shot-peen- will produce parts that look forged.

The 2ZZGE has problems. Bent valves from missed shifts have been common. Sticking valve mechanism also cause unscheduled visits to the Toyota Dealers.

Toyota is addressing these problems currently. We have forged pistons in stock and .5mm os available with deeper valve reliefs and a .5 higher compression.


considering i haven't heard of the 2zz being swapped in, i'd really like to see it race a swapped 3s. stock forms of course.

Posts in this topic
- yaj204   2zz swap?   Nov 29, 2007 - 3:32 PM
- - Kadett   With some custom work it maybe fits but you still ...   Nov 29, 2007 - 3:40 PM
|- - yaj204   what do u think is worth the swap than? i heard 96...   Nov 29, 2007 - 3:44 PM
- - Celiracer18   Considering the 2zz is getting easier to find and ...   Nov 29, 2007 - 4:02 PM
|- - yaj204   i just want to keep toyotas 4 cylinder all motor a...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:52 AM
- - lagos   Its a very easy swap actually. You can get it done...   Nov 29, 2007 - 5:21 PM
- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 29, 2007 - 5:21 PM...   Nov 29, 2007 - 6:22 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Nov 29, 2007 - 5:2...   Nov 29, 2007 - 6:25 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Nov 29, 2007 - 3...   Nov 29, 2007 - 6:42 PM
- - Kwanza26   It can be done... and can be smog legal too... how...   Nov 30, 2007 - 3:11 AM
- - j0e_p3t   ^ that means good news for me.   Nov 30, 2007 - 4:02 AM
- - frosty   QUOTE(MaskedMan @ Nov 29, 2007 - 11...   Nov 30, 2007 - 9:56 AM
- - Kadett   I've driven a 7th gen GT-S or T-Sport as its c...   Nov 30, 2007 - 10:37 AM
- - lagos   I really don't understand why anyone would go ...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:32 PM
|- - yaj204   i dont know about the 3sge motor over the 2zz most...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:49 PM
- - j0e_p3t   QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 30, 2007 - 9:32 AM...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:55 PM
|- - yaj204   comparing a 2zz and a 3mz its not all about extra ...   Nov 30, 2007 - 1:01 PM
- - Kadett   I rather have low end torque then high RPM HP. Muc...   Nov 30, 2007 - 1:38 PM
- - frosty   NEED TORQUE!!!!!!   Dec 1, 2007 - 1:41 PM
- - 02bluerolla   with headers catback , CAI., powerfc and good tun...   Dec 1, 2007 - 5:59 PM
- - Team_yoda   if your gonna do a swap in a 6th gen celi then go ...   Dec 3, 2007 - 7:14 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Team_yoda @ Dec 4, 2007 - 12:1...   Dec 3, 2007 - 8:17 PM
|- - yaj204   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 3, 2007 - 8:17 ...   Dec 5, 2007 - 12:00 AM
- - Kadett   @Kwanza: You got a point. But still like I said. F...   Dec 5, 2007 - 7:59 AM
- - Team_yoda   Anyone who argues "torque" and drives an...   Dec 5, 2007 - 10:36 AM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(Team_yoda @ Dec 5, 2007 - 10:3...   Dec 9, 2007 - 9:48 PM
- - frosty   torque gets you ahead of the race, hp just carrys ...   Dec 10, 2007 - 9:56 PM
- - Team_yoda   QUOTEtorque gets you ahead of the race, hp just ca...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:36 AM
- - purplegt4   isn't that like saying to all the US 3s swappe...   Dec 11, 2007 - 9:07 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(purplegt4 @ Dec 11, 2007 - 8:0...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:00 PM
|- - Kadett   QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Dec 12, 2007 - 5...   Dec 12, 2007 - 11:13 AM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(Kadett @ Dec 12, 2007 - 8:13 A...   Dec 12, 2007 - 11:38 AM
- - pitcelica   I think that some of you don't understand what...   Dec 11, 2007 - 10:23 PM


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