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post Nov 29, 2007 - 3:32 PM
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has anyone done or think about doing a 2zz-ge swap to a 99 celica gt? i was looking at my brothers corolla xrs's motor mounts and both the motor mounts seems to be simular.. i think it can be done but will it pass smog and emission test?
 
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post Dec 11, 2007 - 10:23 PM
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I think that some of you don't understand what is real HP and real Torque.

Torque is rotational force.

Torque formula :

T = R x F

R = radius (wheel diameter/2 for WHP)
F = Force applied on a certain point at the end of the radius (force applied to the ground) unit is lbs or newton

HP = power (quantity of watt)

Hp come from torque and the only other value that can affect HP for a same torque is RPM

HP formula :

HP = torque (lbs-ft) * RPM/5252

So, supposing a 3sgte : 200 lbs-ft @ 3200 RPM

HP = 200*3200/5252

So, HP @ 3200 RPM = 122HP

So, supposing a 2ZZ : 130lbs-ft @ 6800 RPM

HP = 130*6800/5252

So, HP @ 6800 RPM = 168 HP

Those maths are only example, but I only want to clarify some little things that people don't understand. HP cannot be measured. Torque can be measured. Hp is calculated from torque and RPM.

High torque mean high HP at low RPM

Small torque mean High HP at high RPM

So, now you can make a choice, do you want to have big HP at 8000RPM or do you want more torque = HP appear at lower RPM.

This is only to clarify little things, if I made a mistake or if you think that what I'm saying is wrong, please let me know.

Posts in this topic
- yaj204   2zz swap?   Nov 29, 2007 - 3:32 PM
- - Kadett   With some custom work it maybe fits but you still ...   Nov 29, 2007 - 3:40 PM
|- - yaj204   what do u think is worth the swap than? i heard 96...   Nov 29, 2007 - 3:44 PM
- - Celiracer18   Considering the 2zz is getting easier to find and ...   Nov 29, 2007 - 4:02 PM
|- - yaj204   i just want to keep toyotas 4 cylinder all motor a...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:52 AM
- - lagos   Its a very easy swap actually. You can get it done...   Nov 29, 2007 - 5:21 PM
- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 29, 2007 - 5:21 PM...   Nov 29, 2007 - 6:22 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Nov 29, 2007 - 5:2...   Nov 29, 2007 - 6:25 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Nov 29, 2007 - 3...   Nov 29, 2007 - 6:42 PM
- - Kwanza26   It can be done... and can be smog legal too... how...   Nov 30, 2007 - 3:11 AM
- - j0e_p3t   ^ that means good news for me.   Nov 30, 2007 - 4:02 AM
- - frosty   QUOTE(MaskedMan @ Nov 29, 2007 - 11...   Nov 30, 2007 - 9:56 AM
- - Kadett   I've driven a 7th gen GT-S or T-Sport as its c...   Nov 30, 2007 - 10:37 AM
- - lagos   I really don't understand why anyone would go ...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:32 PM
|- - yaj204   i dont know about the 3sge motor over the 2zz most...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:49 PM
- - j0e_p3t   QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 30, 2007 - 9:32 AM...   Nov 30, 2007 - 12:55 PM
|- - yaj204   comparing a 2zz and a 3mz its not all about extra ...   Nov 30, 2007 - 1:01 PM
- - Kadett   I rather have low end torque then high RPM HP. Muc...   Nov 30, 2007 - 1:38 PM
- - frosty   NEED TORQUE!!!!!!   Dec 1, 2007 - 1:41 PM
- - 02bluerolla   with headers catback , CAI., powerfc and good tun...   Dec 1, 2007 - 5:59 PM
- - Team_yoda   if your gonna do a swap in a 6th gen celi then go ...   Dec 3, 2007 - 7:14 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Team_yoda @ Dec 4, 2007 - 12:1...   Dec 3, 2007 - 8:17 PM
|- - yaj204   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 3, 2007 - 8:17 ...   Dec 5, 2007 - 12:00 AM
- - Kadett   @Kwanza: You got a point. But still like I said. F...   Dec 5, 2007 - 7:59 AM
- - Team_yoda   Anyone who argues "torque" and drives an...   Dec 5, 2007 - 10:36 AM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(Team_yoda @ Dec 5, 2007 - 10:3...   Dec 9, 2007 - 9:48 PM
- - frosty   torque gets you ahead of the race, hp just carrys ...   Dec 10, 2007 - 9:56 PM
- - Team_yoda   QUOTEtorque gets you ahead of the race, hp just ca...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:36 AM
- - purplegt4   isn't that like saying to all the US 3s swappe...   Dec 11, 2007 - 9:07 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(purplegt4 @ Dec 11, 2007 - 8:0...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:00 PM
|- - Kadett   QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Dec 12, 2007 - 5...   Dec 12, 2007 - 11:13 AM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(Kadett @ Dec 12, 2007 - 8:13 A...   Dec 12, 2007 - 11:38 AM
- - pitcelica   I think that some of you don't understand what...   Dec 11, 2007 - 10:23 PM


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