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post Dec 20, 2007 - 4:26 AM
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i was doing some research and noticed that pretty much the only difference between the beams 3w-ge and the 3s-gte is that the 3s-ge has the vvt-i and producing about 197 hp compared to the 3s-gte that has no vvt-i but a turbo putting it at about 225hp. does anyone know of anyone that has tries to take the vvt-i head off from the beams motor and put it on the 3s-gte
 
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post Dec 27, 2007 - 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(frosty @ Dec 27, 2007 - 11:44 AM) [snapback]626015[/snapback]

^definitly true tongue.gif ^

QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 20, 2007 - 4:32 PM) [snapback]624479[/snapback]

you can boost a high CR motor (New celicas for that matter as well)

high compression helps with off boost driveability, as well as you make the "same" amount of power as a lower CR motor with a lower boost level on a high CR motor
Its all in the ability to tune your timing and fuel.

In my build i'll actually be raising the CR of the 3sgte to ~9.5:1 almost.


Don't forget a water/meth or alchohol injection for added cooling protection...


Uh, not seeing the vvt-i control on the exposed cam gears so I would say this either is not the beams motor or the vvti was removed.

IMO, turbo the beams, run a high octane, and get some sort of water/meth injection. Going through the hassel to swap heads wouldn't be worth it.

Now if you were to place the head on the 5s block and make it a stroker motor then that would be fun.


water/meth is a "band-aid" solution....how many REAL racecars do you see running around on it? (road course that is) answer is zero. A properly built and tuned motor does not need water/meth. W/M is used in order to run a higher boost level/change timing a bit for short periods of time and is not something you depend on.

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- wrathc5525   beams head on 3s-gtehe vvt-i   Dec 20, 2007 - 4:26 AM
- - Supersprynt   How would you control the VVTI?   Dec 20, 2007 - 9:02 AM
- - playr158   better idea.....take the turbo off the 3sgte...and...   Dec 20, 2007 - 9:30 AM
- - Supersprynt   Agreed.   Dec 20, 2007 - 10:48 AM
- - devilsden97   QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 20, 2007 - 9:30...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:08 AM
- - Supersprynt   It's been done for a long time now. Altezza...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:11 AM
- - devilsden97   It's been done for a long time now. Altezza...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:28 AM
- - playr158   you can boost a high CR motor (New celicas for tha...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:32 AM
- - Supersprynt   Race engines? What? To quote the quite often over...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:32 AM
- - stetsonaw   i had a guy (180sx and jeep builder) tell me that ...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:53 AM
- - Supersprynt   Turbo'ing any N/A motor is decreasing it's...   Dec 20, 2007 - 12:09 PM
- - playr158   if you want beams head on a 3sgte motor, you need ...   Dec 20, 2007 - 1:17 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   gen 2 3sgte is 8.8:1 in my head ive always regard...   Dec 20, 2007 - 2:31 PM
- - Supersprynt   I've seen both 8.8 and 8.5. The power primer e...   Dec 20, 2007 - 2:56 PM
- - azian_advanced   in these forums, i've only seen two boosted be...   Dec 20, 2007 - 4:29 PM
- - devilsden97   ^want to see links (not for proof, just because it...   Dec 20, 2007 - 4:36 PM
- - azian_advanced   well, i remember reading about it at some point a ...   Dec 20, 2007 - 6:05 PM
- - massbrandon   ^^ WOW!!!!!   Dec 20, 2007 - 7:18 PM
- - Junior   Low compression and turbo's usually go hand in...   Dec 20, 2007 - 10:49 PM
- - Supersprynt   Or just control it, V-AFC.   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:08 PM
- - Outsider   http://www.tc-imports.net/available-98beams-turbo-...   Dec 24, 2007 - 8:21 PM
- - celicast3sgte   wow so many of you guys are taking stabs in the da...   Dec 25, 2007 - 2:50 PM
- - Kwanza26   Beams has a really cool looking RED valve cover. ...   Dec 26, 2007 - 10:23 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 26, 2007 - 10:2...   Dec 27, 2007 - 2:20 AM
- - frosty   ^definitly true ^ QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 20, ...   Dec 27, 2007 - 11:44 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(frosty @ Dec 27, 2007 - 11:44 ...   Dec 27, 2007 - 12:20 PM


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