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post Dec 20, 2007 - 6:51 PM
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I think I'm willing to sell my soul for one.
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post Dec 26, 2007 - 2:55 PM
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Not to mention the ZR1's body is practically all carbon fiber. hood, fenders, roof, trunklid. yeah, there is a reason it costs $100,000. Because people will dish out $100,000 for a corvette before they dish out 65-70k for a ...nissan.
post Dec 26, 2007 - 9:35 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 26, 2007 - 7:55 PM) [snapback]625822[/snapback]

Not to mention the ZR1's body is practically all carbon fiber. hood, fenders, roof, trunklid. yeah, there is a reason it costs $100,000. Because people will dish out $100,000 for a corvette before they dish out 65-70k for a ...nissan.


your crazy!! u think more 100k zr-1s will sell then GT-Rs?


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post Dec 27, 2007 - 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(SlickRick @ Dec 26, 2007 - 9:35 PM) [snapback]625882[/snapback]

QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 26, 2007 - 7:55 PM) [snapback]625822[/snapback]

Not to mention the ZR1's body is practically all carbon fiber. hood, fenders, roof, trunklid. yeah, there is a reason it costs $100,000. Because people will dish out $100,000 for a corvette before they dish out 65-70k for a ...nissan.


your crazy!! u think more 100k zr-1s will sell then GT-Rs?

Yup. Corvette attracts a different demographic..completely. Nissan is going to release a product to a demographic that, for the MOST part, can't afford it. Why is/was the STi so popular..arguably of course? Affordability. They built a 300some horsepower AWD production car that cost the consumer around $35,000. Your talking about $30,000 for .7 second increase in a 0-60 time. I mean, really? The marginal benefit is too small to justify not putting $30,000 into a STi or Evo or what have you and still have a silly fast AWD ride that handles like a computer.. i mean, unless you want to paddle-shift your groceries home from the market wink.gif

Personally, just my two cents. But I wouldn't expect to see more than 3-4 production years of the GT-R. The american auto market wants reliability and economy over flash and flare..and the trend is likely to stay for a while. Thats why toyota is making so much money in America..and will continue to make so much money in america.

Sure there is a tuner niche market, but we don't have the same type of buying power, or consumer command over industry. Want that to change? Hire lobbyists in Washington. I'm not kidding. Why do you think people care so much about alternative fuels and such now? Because someone paid someone else a lot of money to make their point clear to the legislators who regulate the EPA, who regulate DOTs, etc on down the line.
post Dec 27, 2007 - 1:33 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 27, 2007 - 5:34 AM) [snapback]625933[/snapback]

QUOTE(SlickRick @ Dec 26, 2007 - 9:35 PM) [snapback]625882[/snapback]

QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 26, 2007 - 7:55 PM) [snapback]625822[/snapback]

Not to mention the ZR1's body is practically all carbon fiber. hood, fenders, roof, trunklid. yeah, there is a reason it costs $100,000. Because people will dish out $100,000 for a corvette before they dish out 65-70k for a ...nissan.


your crazy!! u think more 100k zr-1s will sell then GT-Rs?

Yup. Corvette attracts a different demographic..completely. Nissan is going to release a product to a demographic that, for the MOST part, can't afford it. Why is/was the STi so popular..arguably of course? Affordability. They built a 300some horsepower AWD production car that cost the consumer around $35,000. Your talking about $30,000 for .7 second increase in a 0-60 time. I mean, really? The marginal benefit is too small to justify not putting $30,000 into a STi or Evo or what have you and still have a silly fast AWD ride that handles like a computer.. i mean, unless you want to paddle-shift your groceries home from the market wink.gif

Personally, just my two cents. But I wouldn't expect to see more than 3-4 production years of the GT-R. The american auto market wants reliability and economy over flash and flare..and the trend is likely to stay for a while. Thats why toyota is making so much money in America..and will continue to make so much money in america.

Sure there is a tuner niche market, but we don't have the same type of buying power, or consumer command over industry. Want that to change? Hire lobbyists in Washington. I'm not kidding. Why do you think people care so much about alternative fuels and such now? Because someone paid someone else a lot of money to make their point clear to the legislators who regulate the EPA, who regulate DOTs, etc on down the line.




I mean 30k is BIG difference in price. And the GT-R is not just for a certain demographic. I mean i thought that about Evo AND vettes at first. There is a 37 year old lesbian chick that drives an MR on my block and a school teacher that drives a vette. I mean everyone buying a vette is a potential customer for the GT-R. I mean we have all seen an 50 something guys driving a STI to help curb his mid-life, i am cant believe i am 50 crisis. And younger people are making more money these days, mayne not 80k for a car $$$ but still its in the grasp of some 35+ guys. And why does that 50 year old guy buy a vette? to act young! well no better way to do that and do it in a off beat way but to ditch the vette and get a GT-R right? And how could u mention reliability and economy and mention the vette and domestic cars? we all know japanese cars last longer and cost less to maintain, in both gas and service. I had a trans am ws6 it was a nightmare!! i had 2 sell it and it was only 4 years old when i did. I think the GT-R will do well and yes people look for economy is most cars these days, but prefomance is making a comeback.


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- lagos   New GTR   Dec 20, 2007 - 6:51 PM
- - massbrandon   All I can say is WOW. Thats gonna be nice to see w...   Dec 20, 2007 - 7:59 PM
- - SlickRick   LOL i bet all the z06, viper and domestic fanboys ...   Dec 20, 2007 - 8:38 PM
- - Hanyo   oh god 11sec quartter mile!!!   Dec 20, 2007 - 8:43 PM
- - Supersprynt   It's a really impressive car. That being said...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:13 PM
- - Jared95   Zr1=600+? I dunno how it will compare to this GTR,...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:33 PM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE(Jared95 @ Dec 21, 2007 - 4:33 ...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:50 PM
- - Supersprynt   From Jalopnik: QUOTE...that's at least 620 hor...   Dec 20, 2007 - 11:49 PM
- - Jared95   yeah but how much was this GTR going for? ... i gu...   Dec 21, 2007 - 12:05 AM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE(Jared95 @ Dec 21, 2007 - 5:05 ...   Dec 21, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - playr158   Its a nice car. One of my friend's who I...   Dec 21, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - fastgt   GT-R will start at 60k, but it wont sell for any l...   Dec 21, 2007 - 11:32 AM
- - celicast3sgte   lagos ill go in ona package deal with ya if they w...   Dec 21, 2007 - 11:38 AM
- - Jared95   just 75k ?? you could drop 20k into that GTR and s...   Dec 21, 2007 - 4:28 PM
- - 95st-celica   redicilously fast car but not a fan of the rear en...   Dec 21, 2007 - 4:44 PM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE(95st-celica @ Dec 21, 2007 - ...   Dec 21, 2007 - 4:54 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(95st-celica @ Dec 21, 2007 - ...   Dec 21, 2007 - 5:09 PM
- - 6strngs   I dunno, it's definately fast, and definately ...   Dec 21, 2007 - 6:52 PM
- - celicast3sgte   doesnt even have to be a supra TT.. a plain ol...   Dec 21, 2007 - 7:20 PM
- - Harold_Fastwaker   Even if I had bill gates' money I would never ...   Dec 22, 2007 - 3:25 AM
- - massbrandon   ^^ WOW   Dec 22, 2007 - 10:21 AM
- - fastgt   QUOTE(6strngs @ Dec 21, 2007 - 5:52 ...   Dec 22, 2007 - 11:50 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 22, 2007 - 5:50 P...   Dec 22, 2007 - 12:30 PM
|- - Harold_Fastwaker   QUOTE(Kadett @ Dec 22, 2007 - 2:30 P...   Dec 22, 2007 - 5:40 PM
- - 6strngs   well hey, if you took some of that 35K you were pu...   Dec 22, 2007 - 3:34 PM
- - SlickRick   So who is ready to sell everything but there celi ...   Dec 22, 2007 - 6:19 PM
- - snapshotgt   supra < skyline   Dec 22, 2007 - 6:37 PM
- - dabazied   Yummy.... I don't need a house, just that car....   Dec 23, 2007 - 6:04 PM
- - Punisher   I'll never touch a Nissan.. That car is way ov...   Dec 23, 2007 - 9:49 PM
- - laff09   Not to mention the ZR1's body is practically a...   Dec 26, 2007 - 2:55 PM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 26, 2007 - 7:55 P...   Dec 26, 2007 - 9:35 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(SlickRick @ Dec 26, 2007 - 9:3...   Dec 27, 2007 - 12:34 AM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 27, 2007 - 5:34 A...   Dec 27, 2007 - 1:33 PM
- - fastgt   you do know that the gt-r is way more than just a ...   Dec 27, 2007 - 11:20 AM


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