Jan 2, 2008 - 12:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '07 From pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
before i even start this- i know there's a lot of cars that are faster and a lot cooler than the prism. i've grown rather attached to my beater, and would like to see what's possible for such a vehicle. if your comment has to do with buying a different starter vehicle, or anything of that sort, don't waste your time. just hit the "back" button on your browser and continue on your web bullying way.
i also know such a project will take time and money. both of which i have a bit of, and am willing to expend. basically, i have some space, some tools, some help, and want to make my ****box a force to be reconned with. i have done some research and found some 4dr geo tracker/suzuki sidekick has the same wheelbase, all wheel disc brakes, and 4wd. my goal is to swap the aforementioned goodies into said prism. there is quite an aftermarket following of sidekick/trackers in the offroad scene, parts to support higher torque in the drivetrain are available. i've found they (the tracker/sidekick) use the "s" series engine, requiring a 5sfe or 3sgte to be able to bolt to the awd trans. i know i will need a bit more hp to make the 4wd move as quick a fwd, so i believe the 3sgte would be my best bet. clearly, i will be upgrading the turbo- also requiring a build-up of internals. i have read 100's of build-ups of 3sgte so i have an idea abt what im getting into as far as engine misc. the reason i have chosen the tracker/sidekick as a platform to base this off of is not only because of wheelbase, but cost of parts. i can find junked 4wd trackers/sidekicks for less than $1000. my questions are as follows: 1. are there any fundamental flaws in my thought process for the build? are there any red flags going up in anyone's mind pertaining to why this project could not happen? 2. are there any suggestions as to alternate engine/trans combos i should be considering? any constructive input is greatly appreciated- thanks in advance. |
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Jan 2, 2008 - 8:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '07 From pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i thank everyone for input-
dr tweak: the tracker engine is an s-series, 5sfe and 3sgte should "bolt on". i also enjoyed your $.03 comment. well done i have custom aluminum fabrication for cost of materials, and some of my time on CAD. i have never even heard of someone SEEING a corolla all-trac here in the states. between that and most celica all-tracs already being pulled from yards for rebuilds, etc. at least anything within 150mi of where i live. (central pennsylvania) this was the main reason for the tracker part-out. if anyone has a lead on a corolla all-trac (or just the drivetrain) i would be most interested. i will gladly drive just abt anywhere i can get not requiring a passport btw i am looking for more of a rally/autocross type setup. i commute a fair amount on back roads, full of hills and turns. no off-road, but i'd like to have better traction in snow and wet weather. i have read in some threads abt using celica suspension parts for best handling performance, however i have not gone into as great depths with that as i have with engine/trans setups please continue with ideas/input! this is exactly what i needed. thanks! This post has been edited by do7d: Jan 2, 2008 - 8:32 PM |
Jan 3, 2008 - 7:28 AM
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QUOTE(do7d @ Jan 3, 2008 - 1:27 AM) [snapback]627613[/snapback] i thank everyone for input- dr tweak: the tracker engine is an s-series, 5sfe and 3sgte should "bolt on". i also enjoyed your $.03 comment. well done I'm afraid you are incorrect. As already pointed out, the Suzuki does not use a Toyota engine at all. Just because the letter "S" might appear somewhere on the engine doesn't mean it is remotely close to any Toyota S-series engine. This is a Suzuki Sidekick engine: http://images.4wdandsportutility.com/featu...Engine_View.jpg This is a Toyota 7AFE (1.6) ![]() This is a Toyota 5SFE:
This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Jan 3, 2008 - 10:06 AM -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
do7d 96 prism sleeper build Jan 2, 2008 - 12:42 AM
Muggs I always thought the trackers had their engines mo... Jan 2, 2008 - 11:57 AM
95CelicaST QUOTEI believe the AWD tranny will bolt up to the ... Jan 2, 2008 - 12:09 PM
Muggs I could be wrong, but I thought the corolla all-tr... Jan 2, 2008 - 12:30 PM
devilsden97 this is an off topic discussion.
i see the relive... Jan 2, 2008 - 12:30 PM
Bitter suzuki parts wont just drop into a toyota. Jan 2, 2008 - 2:48 PM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(do7d @ Jan 2, 2008 - 5:42 AM) ... Jan 2, 2008 - 3:04 PM
Bitter its not a toyota engine at all, trust me on this. ... Jan 2, 2008 - 9:37 PM
jdg371 For one of your question. AllTrac Corollas were on... Jan 2, 2008 - 10:21 PM
DEATH That's no 5S-FE doc but I think he can get the... Jan 3, 2008 - 7:50 AM
jdg371 QUOTE(DEATH @ Jan 3, 2008 - 7:50 AM)... Jan 3, 2008 - 9:29 AM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(DEATH @ Jan 3, 2008 - 12:50 PM... Jan 3, 2008 - 10:07 AM
DEATH That's funny. Here I didn't get away with ... Jan 3, 2008 - 9:31 AM
FortuneCookie Don't debate the Tweak! BTW, didn't To... Jan 3, 2008 - 10:49 AM
jdg371 AWD AE101 had the 4AFE If I remember correctly. Jan 3, 2008 - 11:03 AM
do7d i have the 4afe currently- there's a bit of ta... Jan 3, 2008 - 8:16 PM
jdg371 4AGZE engine and replace the supercharger with a t... Jan 3, 2008 - 10:02 PM
dabazied If you find that you don't like your choices, ... Jan 3, 2008 - 10:28 PM
jdg371 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKE3id5PmmY
11.4 ... Jan 3, 2008 - 10:41 PM
do7d i found an entire silvertop (20v) swap- just dynoe... Jan 4, 2008 - 1:26 AM
do7d update:
within the next few days i should be acqu... Jan 4, 2008 - 11:49 AM
Muggs You could also twin-charge the gze (turbo AND sc) ... Jan 4, 2008 - 12:17 PM
95CelicaST QUOTEi found an entire silvertop (20v) swap- just ... Jan 4, 2008 - 12:18 PM
do7d very true.. it's not as if i'd pass one up... Jan 4, 2008 - 12:23 PM
devilsden97 QUOTE(Muggs @ Jan 4, 2008 - 12:17 PM... Jan 4, 2008 - 12:26 PM
95CelicaST Check www.club4AG.com Jan 4, 2008 - 12:30 PM
do7d i forgot to ask- with this engine already having h... Jan 4, 2008 - 12:44 PM
jdg371 ARP stud everything, get the blocked, pistons, and... Jan 4, 2008 - 9:57 PM
do7d i was not looking to twincharge. i was looking to ... Jan 4, 2008 - 10:45 PM
do7d when i do the swap i will absolutely be getting a ... Jan 6, 2008 - 12:16 PM
jdg371 No expirience with either of them, but you can... Jan 6, 2008 - 6:49 PM![]() ![]() |
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