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post Dec 27, 2007 - 12:42 PM
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supra12big

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Hi, I have started a bunch on threads with this whole rear mount and bracekt problem, well i just recently had purchased a rear alltrac mount and bracket (st185), anyways, alot of people didn't say it would work, and told me to get a st205 mount, well here are some pics of a st185 bracket and mount and my e153 tranny (mr2), if u want to ask question just shoot, sry for bad pics

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post Jan 2, 2008 - 7:39 PM
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Ron its Danny. Again Im not sure if the crossmember has bushings or not but if Doc says they dont then I would take his word for it.

As for the mounts again they are ST205 mounts and brackets, remoeved from a St205 Gen3 3SGTE motor - I also have the engine mount and trans bracket from the gen3 motor as well.

The front mount is normal to sit low on the bolt like that about 99% of them all do unless they are using solid crossmember bushings and solid motor mounts.

FYI the front/rear motor mount bushing inserts sold by SpeedSource are specific to the st165-st185 and will not fit a st20x front mount. The front mount on a St20x is narrower than its predececors.

As for the rear mount the SpeedSource insert will work in your application ie. st20x

How well is the mount secured to the crossmember in the rear?

Again Im not sure if you are using the proper the mounts and brackets for the engine and tranny or not but judging by the angle of your engine I would assume that something is not right in your choice of parts - if you need the ST205 ones I have them as well.

As for the axle I have an axle removed from a 1MZ manual equipped Camry, if Eggman could elaborate wether the year is of importance that would be helpful. I have compaired it with ST185 axles I have and the Camry one is longer however the spline count is more compaired to the ST185 one so Im not sure if ST20x hubs use a greater number of splines compaired to there older brothers.
post Jan 3, 2008 - 4:26 PM
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QUOTE(allblackalltrac @ Jan 2, 2008 - 4:39 PM) [snapback]627588[/snapback]
As for the axle I have an axle removed from a 1MZ manual equipped Camry, if Eggman could elaborate wether the year is of importance that would be helpful. I have compaired it with ST185 axles I have and the Camry one is longer however the spline count is more compaired to the ST185 one so Im not sure if ST20x hubs use a greater number of splines compaired to there older brothers.
You need '88-'91 Camry V6 axles, not '92+ Camry V6 axles. I'm using complete '90 V6 Camry axles and an MR2 axle carrier with my E153 (on my '90 Camry), but your inners may need to be different to work with the width of the ST20x chassis.

From '92 up, the Camry has larger bolt pattern, wheel bearings and hub splines than the Celica.

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1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid
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Posts in this topic
- supra12big   E153 rear mount solution   Dec 27, 2007 - 12:42 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   So this is using an ST185 rear MOUNT AND BRACKET? ...   Dec 27, 2007 - 12:48 PM
- - supra12big   mines a 1994, it was a st orignally   Dec 27, 2007 - 12:55 PM
- - supra12big   sratch that, i didn't even know it but that mo...   Dec 28, 2007 - 2:50 PM
- - jason   reguardless, glad to see you are that much closer ...   Dec 28, 2007 - 4:21 PM
- - supra12big   lol, i still trying figure out y my car shakes rea...   Dec 28, 2007 - 6:39 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Dec 28, 2007 - 6...   Dec 28, 2007 - 6:56 PM
- - supra12big   umm yeah actually i don't know what u mean by ...   Dec 28, 2007 - 9:08 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Dec 28, 2007 - 9...   Dec 29, 2007 - 4:44 PM
- - presure2   i changed the title of this thread so there is les...   Dec 29, 2007 - 7:34 AM
- - supra12big   notchy i think, it was not like easy or anything? ...   Dec 30, 2007 - 12:48 AM
- - supra12big   also my axles have spacer things on them should i ...   Dec 30, 2007 - 12:51 AM
- - supra12big   o, and another thing, i think its my axles spacer ...   Dec 30, 2007 - 1:26 AM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Dec 30, 2007 - 1...   Dec 30, 2007 - 1:15 PM
|- - eggman40   QUOTE(supra12big @ Dec 29, 2007 - 10...   Dec 31, 2007 - 5:38 PM
- - supra12big   want me to take a pic? of the passenger side one   Dec 30, 2007 - 3:30 PM
- - supra12big   quick pics, its really cold outside, this is the p...   Dec 30, 2007 - 3:42 PM
- - toyotacrazy   yup, too thick. You have 2 spacers in there. mine...   Dec 30, 2007 - 7:53 PM
- - supra12big   can u sell me something, and also can u circle wha...   Dec 30, 2007 - 9:50 PM
- - Supersprynt   Find yourself a machine shop, and they can trim it...   Dec 30, 2007 - 10:29 PM
- - supra12big   yeah i don't think its my axles, i mean it mig...   Dec 30, 2007 - 10:41 PM
- - Batman722   st205 bracket and mount.   Dec 31, 2007 - 12:17 AM
- - supra12big   and that looks like its the proper way it should b...   Dec 31, 2007 - 12:37 AM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Dec 31, 2007 - 12...   Dec 31, 2007 - 7:07 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(supra12big @ Dec 31, 2007 - 12...   Dec 31, 2007 - 4:12 PM
- - supra12big   i am acutally kinda by u, about a 1hour away, i li...   Dec 31, 2007 - 12:03 PM
- - supra12big   umm, no actually i have a 5sfe passenger side moun...   Dec 31, 2007 - 9:09 PM
- - supra12big   anyone?   Jan 1, 2008 - 7:44 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Jan 1, 2008 - 7:4...   Jan 1, 2008 - 8:27 PM
- - supra12big   k will do that tommorow, does my tranny side mount...   Jan 1, 2008 - 10:03 PM
- - allblackalltrac   Ron its Danny. Again Im not sure if the crossmembe...   Jan 2, 2008 - 7:39 PM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(allblackalltrac @ Jan 2, 2008 - 4...   Jan 3, 2008 - 4:26 PM
- - supra12big   well, by looking at my side tranny mount, should i...   Jan 2, 2008 - 9:04 PM
- - supra12big   y don't i just get diff size spacers, i might ...   Jan 3, 2008 - 9:11 PM
- - supra12big   okay, i just got inserts from kirk in, heres the n...   Jan 7, 2008 - 6:25 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Jan 7, 2008 - 6:2...   Jan 8, 2008 - 9:47 AM
- - supra12big   going to a shop to have it done, hey toyota crazy,...   Jan 8, 2008 - 7:33 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Jan 8, 2008 - 7:3...   Jan 8, 2008 - 8:04 PM
- - supra12big   but i can't find a st205 side tranny mount, so...   Jan 8, 2008 - 9:41 PM
|- - toyotacrazy   QUOTE(supra12big @ Jan 8, 2008 - 9:4...   Jan 9, 2008 - 6:30 AM
|- - allblackalltrac   QUOTE(toyotacrazy @ Jan 9, 2008 - 6...   Jan 9, 2008 - 6:05 PM
- - supra12big   okay, because don't the side mounts hold and m...   Jan 9, 2008 - 6:46 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Yikes, theres alot of information being thrown out...   Jan 17, 2008 - 3:38 PM
|- - eggman40   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Jan 17, 2008 ...   Jan 25, 2008 - 6:22 PM
- - supra12big   pics would be nice, how hard is it to pull apart t...   Jan 17, 2008 - 10:47 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(supra12big @ Jan 17, 2008 - 10...   Jan 18, 2008 - 10:32 AM
|- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE(laff09 @ Jan 18, 2008 - 8:32 A...   Jan 18, 2008 - 5:44 PM
- - supra12big   pics   Jan 18, 2008 - 2:54 PM
- - supra12big   def gonna do it, thanks for all ur help man, how m...   Jan 19, 2008 - 12:58 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Its just really strange... The physical dimension...   Jan 27, 2008 - 1:02 PM
- - supra12big   wow, ur axles look normal compared to how mine sit...   Jan 27, 2008 - 1:30 PM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(supra12big @ Jan 27, 2008 - 10...   Jan 28, 2008 - 2:04 PM
- - supra12big   heres a pic of eggmans setup on the passenger side...   Jan 27, 2008 - 11:38 PM
- - supra12big   so wait are u saying his setup needs a spacer?   Jan 28, 2008 - 2:49 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Yea, a spacer is definately needed. Charlie, poin...   Jan 28, 2008 - 7:44 PM
- - supra12big   k, by looking at my pics, i hve either one of the ...   Jan 28, 2008 - 8:58 PM
- - eggman40   thanks supra for posting for me, i didnt wanna go ...   Jan 28, 2008 - 11:17 PM
- - supra12big   that seems like a perfect setup since u did have r...   Jan 29, 2008 - 6:51 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I'll show you the length of my axle when I put...   Jan 29, 2008 - 1:49 PM
- - supra12big   wait did u get my message, could u sell me a 1/2 i...   Jan 29, 2008 - 2:50 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Hey man, like I said in my previous PM....I really...   Jan 30, 2008 - 11:53 AM
|- - eggman40   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Jan 30, 2008 ...   Feb 1, 2008 - 11:33 AM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (eggman40 @ Feb 1, 2008 - 12:3...   Oct 6, 2009 - 6:54 AM
- - supra12big   k, news update, i found a shop that can do it for ...   Jan 30, 2008 - 3:00 PM
- - supra12big   and i am glad a shop can do my spacers for cheap   Feb 1, 2008 - 3:12 PM


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