E153 rear mount solution, st-205 rear mount and bracket Options

[supra12big]

Hi, I have started a bunch on threads with this whole rear mount and bracekt problem, well i just recently had purchased a rear alltrac mount and bracket (st185), anyways, alot of people didn't say it would work, and told me to get a st205 mount, well here are some pics of a st185 bracket and mount and my e153 tranny (mr2), if u want to ask question just shoot, sry for bad pics

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Yikes, theres alot of information being thrown out here to this poor guy thats either incorrect terminology, or just not right....



To address the mount issue first, it appears that you are using the ST205 rear mount and bracket which is perfect. GT passenger side bracket and mount work just fine, as well as your front transmission mount which can utilize either a GT or ST205 mount. No need to worry there.
Your problem lies in the drivers side transmission mount. That looks to be an ST185 mount, since you can see an area on top of the mount where the All-Trac mount support bar bolts to. THIS NEEDS TO BE A ST205 MOUNT/BRACKET COMBO INSTEAD. Change this out, and the engine will sit perfect.


To address the axle issues, let me start off with the passenger side first. Your inner looks to be an MR2 Turbo inner, so thats fine. The outer should consist of an outer axle from either an ST185 All-Trac OR an 88-91 Camry V6. Both right and left outer axle are the same on these models, and are the same for either Automatic or 5spd equipped Camrys.
You need a spacer as well. You don't need "two spacers" or "a spacer and a half". Right now, your setup has the outer axle bolted up to an EXTRA bearing race....this is the thick metal piece that the inner CV bearings move inside of. That is currently being used as a spacer on your axle, and you need to remove it and get it machined down to 1/2" at a machine shop. Make sure that you leave the tapered lip on the outside of the spacer you make so that it can sit in the cup on your inner axle. Also, you MUST have the INSIDE of the 1/2" spacer you make from the old bearing race bored out as much as possible to where you almost totally eliminate the grooves for the bearings. This will prevent any grinding on binding of the outer axle as it passes into the spacer section.

You will eventually want to make about a 1/3" spacer for the drivers side axle as well, just repeat the same method as the passenger side. You probably wont experience any short term damage from not using one, but the drivers side outer axle is at the absolute limit of its travel without one.

IMPORTANT!!!!!: You cannot use JUST a set of 88-91 outer axles without spacers. No way, no how....Eggman40, I know you suggest using this combination, but it simply is NOT correct, because the outers on the 88-91 Camry and the ST185 are identical. Check on Autozone or Advance Auto Parts websites and you will see that they use the exact same part number for both. Eggman, I have no idea how you are using just those outers, but it is downright dangerous and I would strongly advise others NOT to use this setup without using a spacer.

I had a passenger side outer literally EXPLODE on my car using just the Camry outer and no spacer. The bearings and the retaining basket exploded through the retaining hat on the axle from being over extended. I'm just lucky nobody was hurt, and I didn't blow a CV bearing into the engine block. So unless you like to risk your safety or that of others, DO NOT USE 88-91 OUTERS WITHOUT A SPACER. PLEASE!




That should fix all of your issues supra12big. Let me know if you need pictures, I'm sure several of us with spacers would be more than happy to share what photos we have.



Good luck.

This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Jan 17, 2008 - 3:41 PM