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post Jan 31, 2008 - 2:39 AM
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so, I'm looking for people who have tried any of these tires so I can get some input on them. I'm looking for something that offers a ton of grip for not too much money. ride quality and noisiness don't concern me as I won't be able to hear them over my engine, and my ride is bumpy as hell as is. lol. in terms of longevity, they don't need to last forever, but don't want to replace tires every 4 months! hopefully something that'll last around a year, assuming I keep them properly inflated and get a rotation every few thousand miles. anyway, some I was considering:

Kumho Ecsta SPT
94Y 320 AA A

Hankook Ventus HRII H404


Dunlop Direzza DZ101
94W 300 A A

Yokohama AVS ES100
94W 280 AA A

BF goodrich G-force sport
340 AA A

now, before anyone even says it, I'm not getting toyo tires. I know, I've heard plenty of great things about them, but they're made by les schwab, and I work for America's tire... so I can't get a discount on them. lol. anyway, there was also some Falken Azenis and Falken Ziex tires I want to add to that list, but I don;t know the exact model numbers and what not. anyway, I don't want to spend more than $450 on tires. and after spending over $600 on wheels, I think that's fair seeing as that's more than a grand. anyway, for the size I'm looking at (245/40/17) I can get those kumhos and hankooks for about $75-80 a tire, which is the only reason they're on the list. I could afford to go through them real quick if they're only $300 for the set. plus I heard the hankooks are really soft tires, which should grip better than a stiff tire. I can get both falken's, the yokohama, and the dunlop for for about $90-95 a tire, and the BFG for about $105 a tire. of course, I'm still not sure if I'll be able to fit that size. if not, I'm 90% sure I can fit a 235/40/17, and the prices are cheaper for those, and if not those, then 225/45/17, and the prices are cheaper yet for those. but I really want grip here, which is why I want a wide tire. sure, a top of the line 225 could probably grip better then a bottom of the line 245, but the way I see it, a lower-mid-range 245 could out-grip a upper-mid-range 225. just going from 205's to 195's, even though I got a better tire, I've lost a lot of traction. anyway, if anybody could give any advice on those tires or even recommend some others, I'd appreciate it.


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post Jan 31, 2008 - 5:00 PM
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all these cheaper tires will work well, for a while...
i went thru 4 sets of falkens, over 4 years (basicly a set a year) @ ~400$ a set, mounted.
a little over a year and a half ago, i ponied up and bought a set of michelin pilot sports a/s, and needless to say, ill never buy a set of cheap tires again.
sure, the michelins cost twice as much, but, they will last twice as long, and i still get more grip now than i ever got with the falkens.
i used to hate how once the falkens got some miles on them, the wet handling would just go to total crap.
the michelins still grip incredibly well in the wet, even after like 20K miles.
and yes, get the 225/45 at the minimum on a 7.5" rim.


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post Jan 31, 2008 - 6:54 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 31, 2008 - 2:00 PM) [snapback]636555[/snapback]

all these cheaper tires will work well, for a while...
i went thru 4 sets of falkens, over 4 years (basicly a set a year) @ ~400$ a set, mounted.
a little over a year and a half ago, i ponied up and bought a set of michelin pilot sports a/s, and needless to say, ill never buy a set of cheap tires again.
sure, the michelins cost twice as much, but, they will last twice as long, and i still get more grip now than i ever got with the falkens.
i used to hate how once the falkens got some miles on them, the wet handling would just go to total crap.
the michelins still grip incredibly well in the wet, even after like 20K miles.
and yes, get the 225/45 at the minimum on a 7.5" rim.

no worries, the wheels I'm getting are 17x8 biggrin.gif wider wheels, even in the same tire size, put more of the rubber on the road actually. kinda minimally, but still. in other words, a 215/45/17 on a 8" wheel has more rubber contacting the road than the same exact 215/45/17 on a 7" wheel.

as for tire sidewall size, the number indicates an aspect ratio. meaning, a wider tire with the same aspect ratio has more sidewall than a skinnier tire of the same aspect ratio. basically what I'm saying is, a 245/40/17 has about the same amount of sidwall height as a 225/45. the rolling diameter of a 225/45 is 25", while the rolling diameter of a 245/40 is 24.7". only .3" less, meaning the sidewall is .150" inches shorter than a 225/45. barely any noticable difference. for reference I'll post the rolling diameter of some other tire sizes:

Stock 205/55/15 - 23.9"
225/50/15 - 23.9"
225/45/17 - 25"
235/40/17 - 24.4"
235/45/17 - 25.3"
245/40/17 - 24.7"
245/45/17 - 25.7"

I know most guys here favor 225/45/17, and I've heard no reports of rubbing at all from this size. so, I don't want to have a bigger diameter for fear that I could have some rubbing, which I definately don't want.

as for more expensive tires, I feel a cheaper 245 will out-grip a higher end 225, which is why I'm looking at these tires. if I do end up getting 225's, I'll be able to get a higher end tire for about the same cost because it's a cheaper size. I just don't have to funds for a high end 245/40/17. this size came stock on a lot of BMW's, so tire prices are pretty high. I could spend $300 a tire on some run-flat tires! lol. we had a person with a BMW that was supposed to only use run-flat tires ask us for the price on our cheapest 275/30/19 run-flat. it was $372! laugh.gif


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94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold
88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold
00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car
95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive

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