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post Feb 18, 2008 - 7:26 PM
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So i am now leaning more towards turboing my 5sfte instead of doing a 3's swap.

Wouldn't the 5 have a great power potential over the 3's because it is a 2.2L and not a 2L?

If i do all the work to turbo it myself, i can use my extra money to stroke the engine, but if i do that would that maybe be to much horse power for the motor?

Has anyone stroked thier engine and what was your gain in hp?
I've seen some posts say for around a $2,500 it make your engine put out around 300hp...

Thanks for the info...

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post Feb 18, 2008 - 8:01 PM
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QUOTE(Legit94GT @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7:26 PM) [snapback]642904[/snapback]

So i am now leaning more towards turboing my 5sfte instead of doing a 3's swap.

Wouldn't the 5 have a great power potential over the 3's because it is a 2.2L and not a 2L?

If i do all the work to turbo it myself, i can use my extra money to stroke the engine, but if i do that would that maybe be to much horse power for the motor?

Has anyone stroked thier engine and what was your gain in hp?
I've seen some posts say for around a $2,500 it make your engine put out around 300hp...

Thanks for the info...


I'm not quite turbo'd yet, But I'm doing a 5sfte setup. I HAVE HEARD that the swaped 3's are somewhat unreliable, and though they make masive gains percentage wise, the 5's are overall better and more reliable.

BUT beware that the 5's have problems with timing at boosted levels. So slight modification is required there, but otherwise have been more reliable for daily drivers. But i dont know for myself. This is what i've heard, and for my purposes; this is what i'm presuing.
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As for too much power; They say that can be corrected by using the proper amount of compression in conjunction with what hardware you've got (pistons, cams, ect.)

Make no misteak, you can blow your engine, but if you are careful, then you can do well...

As for 300hp; I dont think that will last too long... Again, I am not the pro, but to relate your question to my medium, I am shooting for 200 - 215whp. should be like 230-245 hp max... With the 5sfe engine.

But there are plenty of people who actualy KNOW what they are talking about, Who will help you to achive this. And if you do 300 and get it (or most) to the wheel on a 5sfte, And it rides reliably as a daily; PLEASE let me know!! biggrin.gif


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post Feb 18, 2008 - 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(D-Man @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7:01 PM) [snapback]642919[/snapback]

QUOTE(Legit94GT @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7:26 PM) [snapback]642904[/snapback]

So i am now leaning more towards turboing my 5sfte instead of doing a 3's swap.

Wouldn't the 5 have a great power potential over the 3's because it is a 2.2L and not a 2L?

If i do all the work to turbo it myself, i can use my extra money to stroke the engine, but if i do that would that maybe be to much horse power for the motor?

Has anyone stroked thier engine and what was your gain in hp?
I've seen some posts say for around a $2,500 it make your engine put out around 300hp...

Thanks for the info...


I'm not quite turbo'd yet, But I'm doing a 5sfte setup. I HAVE HEARD that the swaped 3's are somewhat unreliable, and though they make masive gains percentage wise, the 5's are overall better and more reliable.

BUT beware that the 5's have problems with timing at boosted levels. So slight modification is required there, but otherwise have been more reliable for daily drivers. But i dont know for myself. This is what i've heard, and for my purposes; this is what i'm presuing.
\
As for too much power; They say that can be corrected by using the proper amount of compression in conjunction with what hardware you've got (pistons, cams, ect.)

Make no misteak, you can blow your engine, but if you are careful, then you can do well...

As for 300hp; I dont think that will last too long... Again, I am not the pro, but to relate your question to my medium, I am shooting for 200 - 215whp. should be like 230-245 hp max... With the 5sfe engine.

But there are plenty of people who actualy KNOW what they are talking about, Who will help you to achive this. And if you do 300 and get it (or most) to the wheel on a 5sfte, And it rides reliably as a daily; PLEASE let me know!! biggrin.gif


What motor you use turbo'd has nothing to do with how reliable it is. Reliability should be more based upon who owns the vehicle and who did the set-up or swap. Its how you build you motor and how you maintain it. About the 5s being toublesome with boost is obviously the ecu. The ecu wasn't programed for boost like the 3sgte motor. So obviously its going to be doing some funky stuff. Its how you tune it man. I say if your not ready, don't bother wasting your money.


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Posts in this topic
- Legit94GT   Opinions   Feb 18, 2008 - 7:26 PM
- - D-Man   QUOTE(Legit94GT @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7:2...   Feb 18, 2008 - 8:01 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(D-Man @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7...   Feb 18, 2008 - 10:40 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEWhat motor you use turbo'd has nothing to...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:03 PM
- - bccentaur3   Exactly^. Cutting corners is where it gets you in ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:06 PM
- - Legit94GT   so if turboing a 5sfte can give you boosting probl...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:25 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE40k? 40,000 miles. As in, we have put about ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:30 PM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 18, 2008 - 11:30 P...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:48 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Feb 18, 2008 - 10...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:53 PM
- - bccentaur3   Thank you... If you love your car. you WILL be wil...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:46 PM
- - supershannon77   If there is one thing I can say to everyone on the...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:49 PM
- - 6strngs   to be honest, I think a 3s would probably be more ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:54 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Feb 18, 2008 - 11...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:07 AM
- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:07 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:18 AM
- - bccentaur3   Dude Lagos is just stating the facts. If you were ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:23 AM
- - supershannon77   I was where you once were being told the same thin...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:29 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE IF you are so perfect, why dont you do swaps...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:31 AM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:31 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:42 AM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:42 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:45 AM
- - supershannon77   Where is Manny he saw my bill from the shop by me ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:45 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEnever ment to be an arguement, you are one of...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:13 AM
- - _mikeE   Okay, i read the first couple posts and i gave up ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:54 AM
- - Legit94GT   Wow this got carried way off track and now is back...   Feb 19, 2008 - 11:51 AM


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