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post Feb 18, 2008 - 7:26 PM
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So i am now leaning more towards turboing my 5sfte instead of doing a 3's swap.

Wouldn't the 5 have a great power potential over the 3's because it is a 2.2L and not a 2L?

If i do all the work to turbo it myself, i can use my extra money to stroke the engine, but if i do that would that maybe be to much horse power for the motor?

Has anyone stroked thier engine and what was your gain in hp?
I've seen some posts say for around a $2,500 it make your engine put out around 300hp...

Thanks for the info...

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post Feb 19, 2008 - 12:18 AM
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Then your setup WILL fail and you WILL end up either parting out the kit or blowing your motor. Plain and simple.
If your not willing to learn about your car, then a turbo celica is not for you.



that is a steep statement, although the learning about your car part is correct, not all of us are blessed with the right equipment time and know how to do a project like this
i think that if the shop has a good rep. you should be fine, but the above statement is just stating that ALL shops are bad and dont know what they are doing. im not saying they all know, but their are some out there that know what they are talking about



See, here is the problem that most newbies dont realize and end up learning the hard way later on...
Most people think of going to a shop for a 5sfTe, or a 3sgte, like they think of going to a shop to get new brake pads installed. They want it done in 30min, they want to pay as little as possible, and they expect to drive away, and never think about their car again.

The problem is not with a good/bad shop (well it is, but thats a whole other topic). The REAL problem is that you WILL have problems with your car after the initial install is done, and you will have no idea how to diagnose or fix it. Then you'll end up either blowing the motor, or saying "this sucks" and selling or parting out.

I have seen my share of 5sfte end up that way. I have also seen a few swaps that were done by very reputable shops, have problems that the cars owner just simply does not understand.

The whole point is, this is not like a brake job. You cant find the perfect shop to do everything right, and for you to never have to worry about it again. If your not willing to learn about your car, then you shouldnt be driving a turbo celica. Go buy a nice wrx or something thats been engineered from the ground up by a huge car manufacture.




not once in my post did i say anything about going the cheap way out or comparing it to a brake job.
your post of you promising it going to fail for the sole fact that the owner didnt install it is a very bold statement. IF you are so perfect, why dont you do swaps for other people? im not standing up for all shops, im not standing up for one, but your opinion on tuning shops is very bias and one sided.


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Posts in this topic
- Legit94GT   Opinions   Feb 18, 2008 - 7:26 PM
- - D-Man   QUOTE(Legit94GT @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7:2...   Feb 18, 2008 - 8:01 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(D-Man @ Feb 18, 2008 - 7...   Feb 18, 2008 - 10:40 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEWhat motor you use turbo'd has nothing to...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:03 PM
- - bccentaur3   Exactly^. Cutting corners is where it gets you in ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:06 PM
- - Legit94GT   so if turboing a 5sfte can give you boosting probl...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:25 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE40k? 40,000 miles. As in, we have put about ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:30 PM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 18, 2008 - 11:30 P...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:48 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Feb 18, 2008 - 10...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:53 PM
- - bccentaur3   Thank you... If you love your car. you WILL be wil...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:46 PM
- - supershannon77   If there is one thing I can say to everyone on the...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:49 PM
- - 6strngs   to be honest, I think a 3s would probably be more ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:54 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Feb 18, 2008 - 11...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:07 AM
- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:07 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:18 AM
- - bccentaur3   Dude Lagos is just stating the facts. If you were ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:23 AM
- - supershannon77   I was where you once were being told the same thin...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:29 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE IF you are so perfect, why dont you do swaps...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:31 AM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:31 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(spolski07 @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:42 AM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:42 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:45 AM
- - supershannon77   Where is Manny he saw my bill from the shop by me ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:45 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEnever ment to be an arguement, you are one of...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:13 AM
- - _mikeE   Okay, i read the first couple posts and i gave up ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:54 AM
- - Legit94GT   Wow this got carried way off track and now is back...   Feb 19, 2008 - 11:51 AM


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