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post Jan 29, 2008 - 12:17 AM
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Is it just something wrong wit my car or is all st's have bad traction... even with 110hp my car spins and jumps from a take off pretty badly. My clutch is stock and is still very good, i got stock tires/rims but even so it just doesnt seem to have good traction so once its turboed i dun even wana think about all the spinning it will have from take off.
 
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post Feb 2, 2008 - 12:04 AM
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ok this insanity has to stop.

A clutch is made to put the power/torque to the wheels. If a clutch is bad/worn/crappy then it won't do that. It would slip and the wheels would NOT be able to spin easily or spin at all. An OEM clutch is made to be easy and lightly slip for easy starting from a stop with our low hp/torque cars.

A stage 2/3/4 or whatever stage is made NOT TO slip or slip signifigently less. A Stage 2 disk for example is rated for higher torque which can hold to the pressure plate better and therefore SPIN the wheels when you press the gas pedal. Spinning your wheels is because your clutch grips like a mo fo.

why do people have to get a better clutch when they turbo ? because of the higher torque they now have and an OEM clutch can't handle the torque - meaning it slips and the disk burns out and the tires don't spin at all.

If you can spin the wheels easily you have either :

a. bad tires (not necessarily old)
b. a heavy right foot
c. a lot of torque
d. all of the above

my advise, don't press the gas pedal so hard.


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post Feb 2, 2008 - 1:08 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 1, 2008 - 10:04 PM) [snapback]637049[/snapback]

ok this insanity has to stop.

A clutch is made to put the power/torque to the wheels. If a clutch is bad/worn/crappy then it won't do that. It would slip and the wheels would NOT be able to spin easily or spin at all. An OEM clutch is made to be easy and lightly slip for easy starting from a stop with our low hp/torque cars.

A stage 2/3/4 or whatever stage is made NOT TO slip or slip signifigently less. A Stage 2 disk for example is rated for higher torque which can hold to the pressure plate better and therefore SPIN the wheels when you press the gas pedal. Spinning your wheels is because your clutch grips like a mo fo.

why do people have to get a better clutch when they turbo ? because of the higher torque they now have and an OEM clutch can't handle the torque - meaning it slips and the disk burns out and the tires don't spin at all.

If you can spin the wheels easily you have either :

a. bad tires (not necessarily old)
b. a heavy right foot
c. a lot of torque
d. all of the above

my advise, don't press the gas pedal so hard.


Well said...so if you plan to turbo, you pretty much need to upgrade the clutch. Dustin knows what he is talking about.
post Feb 19, 2008 - 1:21 PM
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QUOTE(Celicav @ Feb 1, 2008 - 10:08 PM) [snapback]637067[/snapback]
QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 1, 2008 - 10:04 PM) [snapback]637049[/snapback]


my advise, don't press the gas pedal so hard.


Well said...so if you plan to turbo, you pretty much need to upgrade the clutch. Dustin knows what he is talking about.

How come when I said it I was a stodgy ole' grandma but when he said it he knows what he's talking about? kindasad.gif wink.gif


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Posts in this topic
- mikecelica   Underpowered st major traction issues   Jan 29, 2008 - 12:17 AM
- - Havok1997GT   i have a GT and have the same problem. but i thin...   Jan 29, 2008 - 12:49 AM
- - Batman722   yea the OEM clutch isn't really the problem......   Jan 29, 2008 - 1:12 AM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jan 29, 2008 - 1:1...   Feb 1, 2008 - 8:55 PM
- - airfron   yeah the clutch doesn't have much to do with i...   Jan 30, 2008 - 2:40 PM
- - 95st-celica   personally i like to spin in first...make the car ...   Jan 30, 2008 - 6:29 PM
- - GriffGirl   UH, IS IT ICEY OUT!? j/k... sounds like you ne...   Jan 30, 2008 - 7:30 PM
|- - Mangozac   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Jan 31, 2008 - 10...   Feb 1, 2008 - 5:05 PM
- - bccentaur3   wouldn't worn out motor mounts cause horrible ...   Feb 1, 2008 - 7:32 PM
- - Batman722   ok this insanity has to stop. A clutch is made to...   Feb 2, 2008 - 12:04 AM
|- - Celicav   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 1, 2008 - 10:0...   Feb 2, 2008 - 1:08 AM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(Celicav @ Feb 2, 2008 - 1:08 A...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:01 AM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(Celicav @ Feb 1, 2008 - 10:08 ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:21 PM
- - Random_Stranger   I can't believe I've just read this topic....   Feb 2, 2008 - 1:16 AM
- - bizzerk   dang how much gas do you guys put when you acceler...   Feb 2, 2008 - 12:05 PM
- - Razgriz   man, are you guys dragging from every light!? ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 9:21 PM
- - politicsareevil   Easy answer. Its your suspension. Your car is able...   Feb 18, 2008 - 9:31 PM
- - pabel89   when i first bought my celica it had a bad clutch,...   Feb 18, 2008 - 10:49 PM
- - playr158   learn how to drive..... /thread   Feb 18, 2008 - 10:54 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 19, 2008 - 3:54...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:00 AM
- - punkuup5150   ok i wish i had this problem i can even get my tir...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:26 AM
|- - tonytutino   QUOTE(punkuup5150 @ Feb 19, 2008 - 1...   Feb 19, 2008 - 9:40 PM
- - Zelstin   A SOFT CLUTCH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EXCESSIVE TIR...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:10 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(Zelstin @ Feb 19, 2008 - 1:10 ...   Feb 19, 2008 - 6:40 PM
- - CelicaGT04   QUOTE(punkuup5150 @ Feb 19, 2008 - 1...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:14 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 19, 2008 - 12:0...   Feb 19, 2008 - 1:28 PM
- - jason   "street racing" close this already!   Feb 19, 2008 - 2:10 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(jason @ Feb 19, 2008 - 2:10 PM...   Feb 19, 2008 - 2:50 PM
- - Zelstin   QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ Feb 19, 2008 - 6...   Feb 19, 2008 - 8:20 PM
- - Defgeph   Stating that a clutch is bad or worn out and is ma...   Feb 19, 2008 - 9:43 PM


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