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post Oct 9, 2003 - 8:12 PM
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Ok I was thinking about this for a while well over a year. First I was thinking about a 3SGTE swap then chose thought a 4AGZE swap would be more economical. Now I see that a turbo set up is the way to go (for me at least), because of price, availability.
Yea a lot of people might say that if I can take the 3g’s that I’m going to spend on a turbo setup and just do an engine swap. Yea I don’t think so. I’m taking a page out the playbook of those crazy corolla guys. For some reason the love the 7afe engine and I found out why. They have been boosting then 7afe to 280 hp on stock internals. I have found a few sites that have everything I need to do that too.
280 hp from a turbo


What do you some of ya’ll think about his?


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post Oct 9, 2003 - 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Oct 9, 2003 - 10:51 PM)
well, i think the best thing about turboing the stock engine would be that i can go in my garage and 45 minutes later the car will be NA again

and please dont spend that much on a kit. dont forget that most likely the piping wont work and the exhaust stuff they give you will have to be modified.

also the turbo that comes with that kit is small and i highly doubt that they can get 280hp with it on a 7afe.

as of now im running 8psi on my setup and believe me, thats about all the power i want with a FWD car. i have gone to parking lots and going through a hard start with my hands off the wheel and the car wants to fly in a different direction everytime

you can have a good setup for about $2k if you take your time gathering the parts

the 7afe engine may not be all that strong but im sure it can reliably handle 200-220hp and last for quite a while but anything above that goes into really high boost levels.

with any engine, so long as you make sure it gets all the fuel it needs can be turboed to make a lot of power over stock HP and still be pretty reliable. the stress on the internals is not as bad as some of you think. it is more stress but the fact that the engine is making more power makes the engine handle the up and down motion of the pistons more easily due to greater momentum.

if maintained, and not driven hard all the time, a 7afte could make 200-220 hp reliably and last for atleast 75-100k miles depending on the condition of the engine before the turbo was installed(mine had 13k miles on a rebuild) and for most of my driving, i dont even hit boost.

an engine swap wil always yield better performance but at the cost of long down time, potential insurance problems, in my case more money, and emmissions problems.

and really, some of you guys shouldnt be so doubtful of something you havent tried

thanks... and yea i know that kits pipping might be not fit the celi but i'm just using that as a guide to everthing i need i'm going to start using some of my hookups to see if i can get all the parts i need new... at a lower price


and GT2GT4 yea i know it is misspelled but i don't feel like changing it so it will stay like that till you'll see the repainted celi ....


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- macavely   Benefits of a turbo over an engine swap.   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:12 PM
- - Coomer   I think that a stock 7A-FE running more than 10 PS...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:21 PM
- - PowellCelica   QUOTE (Coomer @ Oct 10, 2003 - 1:21 AM) I think th...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:22 PM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Coomer @ Oct 9, 2003 - 8:21 PM) I thin...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:24 PM
- - Inferno   I don't think the 7A-FE can take anywhere near...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:25 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (macavely @ Oct 9, 2003 - 5:24 PM) QUOTE (Co...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:27 PM
- - ghostdog   280 ain't gonna happen. First I'd like to ...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:29 PM
- - PowellCelica   I'd like to see a 7A-FE transmission hold that...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:37 PM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Coomer @ Oct 9, 2003 - 8:27 PM) QUOTE (maca...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:43 PM
- - Kwanza   I bet the tranny can hold it (toyota trannies rule...   Oct 9, 2003 - 8:44 PM
- - Supersprynt   But is this a car your going to be using everyday?...   Oct 9, 2003 - 9:04 PM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 9, 2003 - 9:04 PM) But is...   Oct 9, 2003 - 9:13 PM
- - Supersprynt   What is the Benefit tho? its going ot cost you 3,0...   Oct 9, 2003 - 9:28 PM
- - macavely   ok for me the benefits is a turbo setup is a lot m...   Oct 9, 2003 - 9:52 PM
- - 97sccelica   well, i think the best thing about turboing the st...   Oct 9, 2003 - 10:51 PM
- - Matthew   this is kinda off topic but Macavely "commi...   Oct 9, 2003 - 10:56 PM
- - macavely   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Oct 9, 2003 - 10:51 PM) well, ...   Oct 9, 2003 - 11:26 PM
- - Cody   You guys are way to cynical about this whole deal....   Oct 9, 2003 - 11:33 PM
- - Coomer   I'm not debating that it can't be done, be...   Oct 10, 2003 - 12:07 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Coomer @ Oct 10, 2003 - 12:07 AM) I'm n...   Oct 10, 2003 - 12:16 AM
- - FallenHero   Just re-build it first. In the long run, you will...   Oct 10, 2003 - 12:48 AM
- - macavely   oh yea that will be done and for anyone that nee...   Oct 10, 2003 - 1:10 AM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Im with macavely in the sense of screw a motor swa...   Oct 10, 2003 - 2:23 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 10, 2003 - 2:23 AM) Im with...   Oct 10, 2003 - 4:19 AM
- - Supersprynt   i dunno man, no doubt TOyota makes good shizit but...   Oct 10, 2003 - 8:23 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 8:23 AM) i dun...   Oct 10, 2003 - 9:24 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 5:23 AM) i dun...   Oct 10, 2003 - 12:48 PM
- - FallenHero   10psi would be enough for me Hey mac, you might ...   Oct 10, 2003 - 7:16 PM
- - CelicaGuy97   I say its no fun if you don't find out the lim...   Oct 15, 2003 - 8:12 PM
- - edo17982   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Oct 11, 2003 - 2:16 AM) 10psi ...   Oct 16, 2003 - 6:57 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (CelicaGuy97 @ Oct 15, 2003 - 6:12 PM) I say...   Oct 16, 2003 - 8:43 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 6:23 AM) i dun...   Oct 17, 2003 - 7:42 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (zipstrips @ Oct 17, 2003 - 5:42 PM) QUOTE (...   Oct 17, 2003 - 10:20 PM
- - van95st   macavely, how far along are you on doing this? it...   Oct 20, 2003 - 6:55 AM
- - van95st   i was thinking a bit more and was wondering if the...   Oct 20, 2003 - 8:01 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (van95st @ Oct 20, 2003 - 6:55 AM) macavely,...   Oct 20, 2003 - 8:10 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (van95st @ Oct 20, 2003 - 8:01 AM) i was thi...   Oct 20, 2003 - 8:12 AM


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