getting hitched?, Need some ladies advice here Options

[Rayme]

I'm at that point in life wherw me and the GF talks more and more about marriage. I don't have a problem with it I love her. But my main concern is all that is money related wise..specially the "stone".

To put things in perspective, we have 2 relatively new cars and a house, all which are not paied, I make under 30 000$ a year, she makes about 15% more than me annualy.

Cliff note, the girl wants a ring that is about 2000$+, she has that way of saying afford what you can but I'll be sad and disapointed if I get a 400$ ring.

Oh and by the way, I got the reputation of being cheap. That's the way I can afford a WRX with my salary, no really. I want to make sure that everyone knows I'm hovering the "paycheck to paycheck" situation.

Why does getting married be a money issue? Girls are so brainwashed into that one fairy tales day in their life. I'll say right now I'd like to get a cheaper ring and actually use that saved money toward something more practical. Her day is being added to the pressure saying a man should spend 2 months salary on a ring..yea thats like 4000$ or 80$ a month for 4 years. Actually I investigated that thought and found it to be a marketing ploy by a diamond company so I dont think much of it anymore.

Am I being cheap talking like that? I spent the 2 last years getting out of debt..I refuse to be slave to money problems. And then we have all those project..which would eventually be more $ spent..

need counseling

[LewFX]

my gf would take anything i give her and still love it...if its a $50 ring vs $4000...its suppose to a symbol of your love not how much you pay to love her

[Random_Stranger]

my gf would take anything i give her and still love it...if its a $50 ring vs $4000...its suppose to a symbol of your love not how much you pay to love her

x2 But on the same token, to women it matters. See, that's what I don't get. Most women get fake eyes (contacts), fake boobs (implants), wear makeup (fake appearance, though lord knows it usually helps), wear high heels (even though they aren't that tall). All this fake stuff and talk about how they want a real man. I also notice they wear a lot of costume jewelery sometimes and the moment you get something that broke you and wasn't enough, they get all pissed off. Now, if you can give it all you got, and they can appreciate this, then you know you got yourself a good woman. Which is why I am going to go with what Jeff said. If they love it like a million dollars, then you got yourself a good woman. That's how my ex was, but I still had to let her go. But I will tell you this, since then, it's never been the same with me and the ladies.