BEAMS BLACK, RED, AND GREY TOP Options

[Dragondog]

OK WELL I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH LEARNED A LITTLE BOUT BEAMS RED TOP AND BLACK TOP FROM WHAT I READ BLACK PUT OUT MORE THEN RED BUT RED HAS MORE PERFORMANCE UPGRADES AVALABLE IS THAT TRUE?......WHAT I DONT GET IS SOME SAY BLACK TOP IS NOT DUAL VVTI AND RED IS BUT OTHERS SAY BLACK TOP IS MAYBE IT DEPENDS ON THE GEN..THE BLACK TOP I WAS LOOKING AT COMES FROM A ALTEZZA.........WHAT DO YOU RECOMEND OUT OF THE 2? AND IF U HAVE MORE INFO PLZ LET KNOW...I DID A LITTLE MORE READIN AND WHAT I GOT WAS BLACK TOP WAS OUT IN 97 THEN RED TOP IN 98 BOTH DUAL VVT-I EXCEPT THE GREY TOP WITCH IS COLOR BLACK BUT CALLED GREY TOP IT ONLY HAS 1 VVT-I.......AND TO ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION (IS THERE A VTECH FOR OUR CARS)...YES AND NO THE DUAL VVTI BEAMS IS BASICLY A TOYOTA VERSION OF THE HONDAS VTECH......I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFF BETWEEN THE DUAL BLACK AND THE DUAL RED TOP.......AND I KNOW ITS ONLY A DUAL UNLESS IT SAYS DUAL VVT-I RIGHT NEXT TO BEAMS

[Valo666]

Holy caps....^^ this is true. The black top will fit into an Altezza, or an IS as they are known over here, or any RWD toyota that is front engine mounted *ie not MR2*.

As for the dual VVTI in a red top, they only came with single stage from what i know. And yes even though they are powerful motors, they do have limited performance backup.

and regarding power, there is the grey top at the bottom. They came out of JDM Rav4s, the Redtops came out of late model MR2s and SS-III celicas, and the blacktop is out of the Altezza RS200.

If your thinking of doing this swap, be prepaired for some headaches. You are gonna need some one to translate the wiring diagrams, your gonna need to find a full Beams clip or motor set with eveyr thing you will need, aswell as a Beams gauge cluster or tach. There is a member on here called Outsider, he lives in Alberta and did the full swap into his 6th gen. Him or Dr. Tweak would be the best two people to get info from, they have both done the swap, but Tweak did it in a 5th gen convert.