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post Mar 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM
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where is a good place i can get drilled and sloted rotors......no i wont do it to standerd disks......i found a place in ca that sells them for 69$ for frt pair what do you think others for 107$ a disk


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post Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
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:lol:

I just say what comes from research, race teams, and what happens on cars with effective parts.
same reason why we giggle at street cars with BBKs

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The reason for the creation of cross drilled rotors initially was to remove the "gasses" from the brake pads. HOWEVER, most of your modern brake pads (Axxis metal, AEM semi-ceramic) do NOT produce gasses when heating. This was on bad brake pads used in the 1950s and 1960s. Back then, asbestos was also used, and we dont use that either.


also physics 101....braking power comes from friction of pad to rotor....take away surface area what happens?! LESS braking power
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Cross drilled rotors have LESS contact area because of the holes.
But if the rotor is cooler, its better, right? Well no, because these rotors are not cooler. THe heat is generated from the pad/rotor contact. What removes heat the most effectively? When stopped or moving, the pad transfers heat into the rotor because its made of cast iron. the rotor has a lot of surface area and even vanes in it. But the little holes allow air in this surface contact, and you can transfer more heat into a solid big ass chunk of cast iron more than you can into the air. Don't believe me? Touch some steam at 150 degrees, then touch a piece of hot metal which is at 150 degrees. Which burns your hand? the metal. So let the heat transfer into the metal, because since it has so much more surface area, dissapates better.

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Find me an F1 car as of now that uses cross drilled or slotted rotors.
They all use full ceramic rotors and ceramic pads. Are they drilled or slotted? No.

If they helped the fastest cars in the world, wouldn't they use them? Its basic calculations that show the lack in surface area does not make up for the possible loss in temperarure. They use brake cooling air ducts insted.


This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 1, 2008 - 10:59 AM

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- Dragondog   drilled and sloted   Mar 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM
- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 2:3...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:32 PM
- - Dragondog   if i go for the ones running about 107 a disk (214...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:41 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 2:4...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:51 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Mar 28, 2008 - 3:51 PM...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:14 PM
- - D-Man   I'd have to tell you the brands when i get hom...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:44 PM
- - pabel89   i got mines on ebay for $100 both.   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:14 PM
- - jason   not going to link, but pretty much every thread th...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(jason @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4:16 PM...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:43 PM
- - Dragondog   I LIVE IN LUBBOCK...........AND IS SLOTTED NOT THE...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:07 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 5:0...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:23 PM
- - Dragondog   LOL I NEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE IN HOUSTON EVERY1 I...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:36 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4:3...   Mar 29, 2008 - 7:30 AM
- - GriffGirl   I'm told these are decent but I don't know...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:43 PM
- - 6_GEN   DONT BUY FROM EBAY!!! THEY WILL CRACK...   Mar 29, 2008 - 8:21 AM
- - Dragondog   200$ SOUNDS GOOD TO ME I WOULD TAKE U UP ON T...   Mar 29, 2008 - 9:59 AM
- - D-Man   actualy, thanks to griff girl, i may be able to ge...   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:12 AM
|- - k-weaver   QUOTE(D-Man @ Mar 29, 2008 - 3...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:07 AM
|- - D-Man   To the best of my knowledge yes, they are compatib...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM
- - Dragondog   when i was web hunting i was looking at those too....   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:29 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 29, 2008 - 10...   Mar 29, 2008 - 11:07 AM
- - Dragondog   ok well im trusting you so hook me then if you can...   Mar 29, 2008 - 11:40 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 29, 2008 - 11...   Mar 29, 2008 - 12:39 PM
- - Dragondog   i c well let me know bout ur boss if so we can tal...   Mar 29, 2008 - 12:46 PM
- - Dragondog   will sway bars work with coilovers? or do i have t...   Mar 29, 2008 - 1:28 PM
- - playr158   slotted rotors only...... d/s = crapola   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:24 AM
- - Dragondog   explain crapola   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:27 AM
- - playr158   its a looks thing pretty much that negatively effe...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:30 AM
- - D-Man   playr, i have to honestly say, that i do like the ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
- - playr158   :lol: I just say what comes from research, race t...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
- - brthrurik   I'm running the brakeplanet setup, had it for ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:50 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 11:5...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:55 AM
|- - Zelstin   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 10:5...   Apr 1, 2008 - 1:21 PM
|- - brthrurik   QUOTE(Zelstin @ Apr 1, 2008 - 10:21 ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 7:52 PM
|- - Zelstin   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 7:52...   Apr 2, 2008 - 8:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 1, 2008 - 11:49...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:57 AM
- - playr158   yus i haz been on Ricecar forumz :eeps: you know ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 11:01 AM
- - Supersprynt   Um, no. Getting better brake pads and properly br...   Apr 1, 2008 - 8:28 PM
- - markie   i like how the thread originally started off as a ...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(markie @ Apr 2, 2008 - 2:16 PM...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:49 PM
- - markie   QUOTE(D-Man @ Apr 2, 2008 - 1:4...   Apr 4, 2008 - 1:36 PM
- - D-Man   no no, you didnt make a misteak. I just pointed th...   Apr 4, 2008 - 1:53 PM
- - playr158   sorry that last post made me giggle. Rotors: ...   Apr 4, 2008 - 2:03 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 4, 2008 - 12:03...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:33 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:33...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:40 PM
||- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(D-Man @ Apr 4, 2008 - 2:4...   Apr 4, 2008 - 7:17 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 2:33...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:43 PM
- - D-Man   what'd i tell ya It's intended for all ...   Apr 4, 2008 - 3:41 PM
- - DEATH   no comment. He's right about the lighter thing...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:01 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:01 PM)...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:08 PM
- - DEATH   The GF and I are currently making Toyota devil hor...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:15 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:15 PM)...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:21 PM
- - markie   hahaha!! cheers!! thanks guys, thi...   Apr 5, 2008 - 3:03 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 8:17...   Apr 6, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - Dragondog   HOW QUICK DOES BREAK PLANET DELIVER IT TO UR DOOR?   Apr 23, 2008 - 4:12 AM
- - playr158   ZOMGZ AS FAST AS A WOODCHUCK COULD CHUCK WOOD...   Apr 23, 2008 - 9:05 AM
- - D-Man   i forgot all about this thread. Ya know... Oh n...   Apr 23, 2008 - 9:16 AM
|- - Edophus   drilled discs are pointless, modern pad compounds ...   Apr 24, 2008 - 5:28 AM
- - Dragondog   EDOP YOU SEEM TO TRY TO SAY THE LAST OF EVERYTHING...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:06 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:0...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:20 AM
- - playr158   yea dragon bro maybe you should just research caus...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:51 AM
- - D-Man   Edouphus you've got some valid points. However...   Apr 25, 2008 - 8:21 AM
- - crandsberry   Sorry if im beating a dead horse , but i am in th...   Apr 25, 2008 - 8:53 AM
- - DEATH   I'm not going to get involved in this arguemen...   Apr 25, 2008 - 9:34 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(crandsberry @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9...   Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39...   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:38 AM
|- - crandsberry   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:36 PM
- - playr158   sorry not yours, you just posted in middle of me t...   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:43 AM
- - D-Man   [/thread] We're never going to agree on this....   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - Dragondog   OK WILL AFTER READING all this i see a point to al...   Apr 25, 2008 - 5:58 PM
- - GriffGirl   It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. ...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:17 PM
- - Edophus   hey i think there is truth in the things most say,...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:52 PM
- - jason   you need some heat to get them to optimal performa...   Apr 26, 2008 - 12:06 AM
- - crandsberry   great reading material Tech article from Pop. hot...   Apr 26, 2008 - 7:01 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:5...   Apr 27, 2008 - 5:54 AM
- - ETNRIDER   I have had my brakes and drilled & slotted rot...   May 2, 2008 - 3:19 PM
- - markie   i love reading this thread.. lol. some great mind...   May 3, 2008 - 9:33 AM
- - Dragondog   ok well after putting on my d/s disks i thought id...   May 31, 2008 - 5:25 AM


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