new celica owner looking for advice

new celica owner looking for advice, new celica owner looking for advice

Oct 14, 2003 - 6:39 PM
RoverGuy View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '03 From Indianapolis, In Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	hey, whats up everyone. i recently purchased a 94 celica st, its red, auto but its in really good shape. $1900 not bad...huh. runs perfect. whole lifetime of service records and all anyway, i have a few questions about it in general......here goes. 1. can you turbo an st 1.8? if so how much $$$$? 2. can you fit 19" rims on an st hatchback? 3. who sells a dual exhast system for the st? 4. (refer to ? 3.) and body kit to fit it? 5. is the upgrade to 4 disc brakes from a GT(swap the rear ones ya know)difficult? thanks if anyone can help.

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Oct 15, 2003 - 4:16 AM

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QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 15, 2003 - 12:21 AM)

Well, first of all I have a GT. And If you were to slap on a turbo kit to one of the two engines>5sfe-7afe. I would have to choose 7afe, mainly because its all about compression. True, you could throw on some low-compression pistons but were talkin stock. I dont know were you all get the idea of a "weak" engine and if you have an explanation that would be cool cause I dont see how the amount of HP has to do with the strength of an engine.
Plus were do we see a Swap as more cost effective..lol.. C'mon people get real. Im gonna drop more on a swap than a bolt on T-kit for a few more HP which, for one emmisions is gonna have a field-day with the visual, if you need a replacement part- you get it from Japan, to have a mechanic "try" to fix a problem which no matter how good the install is your probablly gonna have a problem. ECU for another, alot of you guys feel as though the swap is a resonable upgrade to your stock motor. Why?? When a Turbo kit running at a resonable 7-10 psi intercooled will do close to that of a swap. I dont see how alot of you constantly reside to the "swap". Knowing that almost none of you will do it. I just cant understand how its more cost effective...for HP

.... hmmmm...maybee but as far as problematic..lol...not seein it fellas.
Truth be told on my GT I'd rather spend 3'900 bucks on a custome kit: Burien Toyota 5SFE kit, Apex-i SAFCII, Turbo Timer, Apex-i Super AVC-R, re-built Tourque Converter plus a MKIII Intercooler w/ pipping. And I would still hang with all you 3sgte swaps chillin at 180+whp. Not to mention Camshafts or rebuilding internals but were not talking about that here. Rather than the average 5'000 for the motor and install and wirring. The 3sgte is cool and all but for Americans its not ment to be, with out real money(non-cost effective) or the desire to do the desirable.
Props to those who have done it but being reasonably cautious as to a JDM motor into a USDM shell and wirring, you are going to have problems somewhere down the road as do all cars and the repair or parts needed will be more pricier and harder to find.
Thats just my point of view.

I have an opposing point of view.

Most engines that have 100,000 miles on them are not going to be as reliable as an engine that has 35,000 to 45,000 miles on it, like most engines that people swap into cars do. Also, not everyone has to deal with emissions. For those of us who don't, we have it easy and don't have to worry about that. Also, do you really think that an engine that comes N/A from the factory with high miles on it and an aftermarket turbo is going to pass emissions? I don't think that it will.

Also, does your $3,900 you're spending on your turbo kit include the price of someone else doing the labor? If not, then don't compare it to a engine swap with somone else doing the labor. The 3S-GTE swap can be done to a ST204 GT for less than $2,000, if you do the labor yourself. If you have someone else do the labor, then it can cost a lot, but it doesn't mean it will. For my mechanic to swap a ST185 3S-GTE into a ST204, he would charge $800 or so.

Also, ST185 3S-GTE parts can be purchased in the US. Some companies stock parts for JDM engines as well, such as Champion Toyota. I got an idler pulley for my silver top AE101 4A-GE in four days for a great price, and this part isn't a US part.

You also argue that somewhere down the line, people with swaps will run into problems. You forget to mention that people who turbo their cars will too, and even people with bone stock engines who baby them will too. Cars do not last forever, and running into problems down the line is inevitable.

Also, you're forgetting about the potential of a 3S-GTE, compared to a boosted 5S-FE or 7A-FE. A 3S-GTE running at stock boost levels can handle more boost without problems. A 7A-FE or 5S-FE running 10 PSI on stock internals won't be able to tolerate much more boost without problems.

Now that's my point of view.

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RoverGuy new celica owner looking for advice Oct 14, 2003 - 6:39 PM

slipgun 1. YES but a engine swap is much cheaper in the lo... Oct 14, 2003 - 6:47 PM

celicakid84 1. Yes it can be done. There is no kit for it but... Oct 14, 2003 - 6:50 PM

BlackCelicaGT94 QUOTE (RoverGuy @ Oct 14, 2003 - 4:39 PM) 1. can ... Oct 14, 2003 - 6:52 PM

Coomer Welcome to the site! You got an incredible de... Oct 14, 2003 - 7:02 PM

RoverGuy its got 135000 miles on it doesnt leak anything...... Oct 14, 2003 - 7:04 PM

Chrobis damn thats a great deal. Oct 14, 2003 - 7:33 PM

Stipt Duel exhaust doesn't always slow you down just... Oct 15, 2003 - 1:46 AM

macavely 1. can you turbo an st 1.8? if so how much $... Oct 15, 2003 - 2:17 AM

5sfeTurbo Well, first of all I have a GT. And If you were to... Oct 15, 2003 - 3:21 AM

Coomer QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 15, 2003 - 12:21 AM) Well, ... Oct 15, 2003 - 4:16 AM

5sfeTurbo Respectably...I still disagree on a swap. Its a he... Oct 15, 2003 - 2:53 PM

Coomer QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 15, 2003 - 11:53 AM) I see ... Oct 15, 2003 - 3:04 PM

Stipt 3sgte st185 engine with everything included= ... Oct 15, 2003 - 9:35 PM

5sfeTurbo QUOTE (Stipt @ Oct 15, 2003 - 7:35 PM) 3sgte st185... Oct 15, 2003 - 10:15 PM

Matthew 5sfe turbo i agree with some of your points but ju... Oct 15, 2003 - 10:37 PM

97sccelica i have a boosted 1.8 liter running 8 psi right no... Oct 15, 2003 - 11:09 PM

RoverGuy thanks for all the good info i really apriciate it... Oct 16, 2003 - 1:16 AM

Coomer QUOTE (RoverGuy @ Oct 15, 2003 - 10:16 PM) thanks ... Oct 16, 2003 - 1:22 AM

Stipt d00d, for used pedals, cylinders, cables and shift... Oct 16, 2003 - 3:33 AM

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