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post Mar 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM
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where is a good place i can get drilled and sloted rotors......no i wont do it to standerd disks......i found a place in ca that sells them for 69$ for frt pair what do you think others for 107$ a disk


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post Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39 AM
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QUOTE(crandsberry @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:53 AM) [snapback]668005[/snapback]

Sorry if im beating a dead horse tongue.gif , but i am in the market for new front rotors too, so ive to throw in my 2 cents

It seems the big gripe about drilled and slotted rotors is that they decrease the frictional surface area for the pads to make contact with.

Isn’t that the same concept as those four and six puck clutch disks? By limiting the surface area you greatly increase the clamping force at four or six points, while sacrificing lifespan of the friction material and smooth engagement.

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Drilled and/or Slotted = lots of bite but short lived pads


Also, holes and slots increase surface area of the rotor as a whole, therefore it must cool faster than a standard rotor.


whooo knooowws


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B-R-A-K-E-S are different than clutches. reducing the surface area of the disk is not going to give you more bite at fewer places. it gives you less braking power in less places.
That and I'm really going to assume you don't know clutch theory and it doesn't apply to braking.

colder rotors = bad. BRAKING power works off of heat + friction. Drilling is PURELY ASCETIC there is no functional benefit from them, Porsche and Benz already said they do it for "style".

as well as where you live has ZERO to do with the type of BRAKE pads you need. CITY driving has to deal with INITIAL BITE of your brake pad. This is an issue that comes down to COMPOUND construction. You don't need "performance" BRAKEs to drive there, you need to not follow so close to people/drive slower in traffic.

but this is now a dead horse. Do your research on B-R-A-K-E-S and you will learn about how they work and what is effective. (Thus I mean research from scholarly documentation, not ricerRus.com )

here is a shot of our race car (front 3 series 4 door) @ the track
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6965/85sigiq4.jpg
look closely, solid rotors wink.gif much faster than any swap here and endures much more braking demands.

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post Apr 25, 2008 - 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39 AM) [snapback]668012[/snapback]

laugh.gif at last 2 postings


Mine too? I still think my points are valid [and if you look I pretty much agree with you] kindasad.gif


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- Dragondog   drilled and sloted   Mar 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM
- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 2:3...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:32 PM
- - Dragondog   if i go for the ones running about 107 a disk (214...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:41 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 2:4...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:51 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Mar 28, 2008 - 3:51 PM...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:14 PM
- - D-Man   I'd have to tell you the brands when i get hom...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:44 PM
- - pabel89   i got mines on ebay for $100 both.   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:14 PM
- - jason   not going to link, but pretty much every thread th...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(jason @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4:16 PM...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:43 PM
- - Dragondog   I LIVE IN LUBBOCK...........AND IS SLOTTED NOT THE...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:07 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 5:0...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:23 PM
- - Dragondog   LOL I NEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE IN HOUSTON EVERY1 I...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:36 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4:3...   Mar 29, 2008 - 7:30 AM
- - GriffGirl   I'm told these are decent but I don't know...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:43 PM
- - 6_GEN   DONT BUY FROM EBAY!!! THEY WILL CRACK...   Mar 29, 2008 - 8:21 AM
- - Dragondog   200$ SOUNDS GOOD TO ME I WOULD TAKE U UP ON T...   Mar 29, 2008 - 9:59 AM
- - D-Man   actualy, thanks to griff girl, i may be able to ge...   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:12 AM
|- - k-weaver   QUOTE(D-Man @ Mar 29, 2008 - 3...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:07 AM
|- - D-Man   To the best of my knowledge yes, they are compatib...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM
- - Dragondog   when i was web hunting i was looking at those too....   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:29 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 29, 2008 - 10...   Mar 29, 2008 - 11:07 AM
- - Dragondog   ok well im trusting you so hook me then if you can...   Mar 29, 2008 - 11:40 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 29, 2008 - 11...   Mar 29, 2008 - 12:39 PM
- - Dragondog   i c well let me know bout ur boss if so we can tal...   Mar 29, 2008 - 12:46 PM
- - Dragondog   will sway bars work with coilovers? or do i have t...   Mar 29, 2008 - 1:28 PM
- - playr158   slotted rotors only...... d/s = crapola   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:24 AM
- - Dragondog   explain crapola   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:27 AM
- - playr158   its a looks thing pretty much that negatively effe...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:30 AM
- - D-Man   playr, i have to honestly say, that i do like the ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
- - playr158   :lol: I just say what comes from research, race t...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
- - brthrurik   I'm running the brakeplanet setup, had it for ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:50 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 11:5...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:55 AM
|- - Zelstin   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 10:5...   Apr 1, 2008 - 1:21 PM
|- - brthrurik   QUOTE(Zelstin @ Apr 1, 2008 - 10:21 ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 7:52 PM
|- - Zelstin   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 7:52...   Apr 2, 2008 - 8:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 1, 2008 - 11:49...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:57 AM
- - playr158   yus i haz been on Ricecar forumz :eeps: you know ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 11:01 AM
- - Supersprynt   Um, no. Getting better brake pads and properly br...   Apr 1, 2008 - 8:28 PM
- - markie   i like how the thread originally started off as a ...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(markie @ Apr 2, 2008 - 2:16 PM...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:49 PM
- - markie   QUOTE(D-Man @ Apr 2, 2008 - 1:4...   Apr 4, 2008 - 1:36 PM
- - D-Man   no no, you didnt make a misteak. I just pointed th...   Apr 4, 2008 - 1:53 PM
- - playr158   sorry that last post made me giggle. Rotors: ...   Apr 4, 2008 - 2:03 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 4, 2008 - 12:03...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:33 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:33...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:40 PM
||- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(D-Man @ Apr 4, 2008 - 2:4...   Apr 4, 2008 - 7:17 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 2:33...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:43 PM
- - D-Man   what'd i tell ya It's intended for all ...   Apr 4, 2008 - 3:41 PM
- - DEATH   no comment. He's right about the lighter thing...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:01 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:01 PM)...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:08 PM
- - DEATH   The GF and I are currently making Toyota devil hor...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:15 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:15 PM)...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:21 PM
- - markie   hahaha!! cheers!! thanks guys, thi...   Apr 5, 2008 - 3:03 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 8:17...   Apr 6, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - Dragondog   HOW QUICK DOES BREAK PLANET DELIVER IT TO UR DOOR?   Apr 23, 2008 - 4:12 AM
- - playr158   ZOMGZ AS FAST AS A WOODCHUCK COULD CHUCK WOOD...   Apr 23, 2008 - 9:05 AM
- - D-Man   i forgot all about this thread. Ya know... Oh n...   Apr 23, 2008 - 9:16 AM
|- - Edophus   drilled discs are pointless, modern pad compounds ...   Apr 24, 2008 - 5:28 AM
- - Dragondog   EDOP YOU SEEM TO TRY TO SAY THE LAST OF EVERYTHING...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:06 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:0...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:20 AM
- - playr158   yea dragon bro maybe you should just research caus...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:51 AM
- - D-Man   Edouphus you've got some valid points. However...   Apr 25, 2008 - 8:21 AM
- - crandsberry   Sorry if im beating a dead horse , but i am in th...   Apr 25, 2008 - 8:53 AM
- - DEATH   I'm not going to get involved in this arguemen...   Apr 25, 2008 - 9:34 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(crandsberry @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9...   Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39...   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:38 AM
|- - crandsberry   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:36 PM
- - playr158   sorry not yours, you just posted in middle of me t...   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:43 AM
- - D-Man   [/thread] We're never going to agree on this....   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - Dragondog   OK WILL AFTER READING all this i see a point to al...   Apr 25, 2008 - 5:58 PM
- - GriffGirl   It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. ...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:17 PM
- - Edophus   hey i think there is truth in the things most say,...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:52 PM
- - jason   you need some heat to get them to optimal performa...   Apr 26, 2008 - 12:06 AM
- - crandsberry   great reading material Tech article from Pop. hot...   Apr 26, 2008 - 7:01 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:5...   Apr 27, 2008 - 5:54 AM
- - ETNRIDER   I have had my brakes and drilled & slotted rot...   May 2, 2008 - 3:19 PM
- - markie   i love reading this thread.. lol. some great mind...   May 3, 2008 - 9:33 AM
- - Dragondog   ok well after putting on my d/s disks i thought id...   May 31, 2008 - 5:25 AM


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