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post Mar 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM
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where is a good place i can get drilled and sloted rotors......no i wont do it to standerd disks......i found a place in ca that sells them for 69$ for frt pair what do you think others for 107$ a disk


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post Apr 27, 2008 - 5:54 AM
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QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:58 PM) [snapback]668215[/snapback]

OK WILL AFTER READING all this i see a point to all this arguing sry EDO for all that but i am for 1 a racer i dont know much bout the mechanix behind it but i just love getting hocked up with parts putting them on and enjoying the win....brand is a big thing with me tho i dont want cheap parts but i would like to spend cheap....hence THE HOOKUP.....but i do understand all the points thax for the details and info but my mind is set for d/s disk....foe the fact im am a racer


If you WERE a RACER, you'd know FUNCTION > form.
But you know this comes from someone who spends time at the race shop fabricating parts for a bmw race car (we swept all our classes with 1st place last race woot.gif, on SOLID rotors too! )

QUOTE(crandsberry @ Apr 25, 2008 - 7:36 PM) [snapback]668231[/snapback]


ok ok the clutch comparison was sketchy i agree, i was just thinkin "ehh friction material.. spinning metal disk.. kinda close!" They have similar jobs, just brakes take far more abuse.

playr ur right i didnt research brakes at all, i was just throwin **** out there, but now ive researched, touche.

This is a great article
http://www.aa1car.com/library/2003/bf10312.htm

and heres some math
http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Dri...isk_Brakes.html

"braking power works off heat"????
Im going to save you some face and let you google the word "brake fade" before posting again

so if you read the articles turns out everyone is right biggrin.gif

1) cross drill and slotted cool faster, great for racing (porsche and benz do it for style cause you dont race them but they are SPORTS CARS)

2) grip is dependent almost entirly on pads and rotor diameter

3) rotors crack because of ****ty metallurgy (bad casting), so buy expensive ones



a) glad you did some research, keep researching and learning

b)
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"braking power works off heat"????
Im going to save you some face and let you google the word "brake fade" before posting again


I'm going to save you some face and let you use a dictionary or something and learn "operating temperature". Yes brake fade comes from TOO much heat and an incorrect/not up the the task brake system setup. But there are various points to a pad's functionality. When you are looking at pad compounds there is a factor of "cold bite" this means a cold brake pad. Brake pads just like your motor need to warm up in order to give full functioning and achieve their maximum potential. This is why you don't use track pads on the street. They need HEAT to get to their operating temperatures. So thank you yes braking power works off heat. Think of braking power as a function of a parabola. Initially braking not so good, temp comes up braking power is getting better, but too much heat and you get diminishing returns (brake fade)

c) on "#1" you failed again. Race cars DO NOT USE D/S rotors. Mercedes Benz is not a sports car either laugh.gif

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- Dragondog   drilled and sloted   Mar 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM
- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 2:3...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:32 PM
- - Dragondog   if i go for the ones running about 107 a disk (214...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:41 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 2:4...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:51 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Mar 28, 2008 - 3:51 PM...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:14 PM
- - D-Man   I'd have to tell you the brands when i get hom...   Mar 28, 2008 - 2:44 PM
- - pabel89   i got mines on ebay for $100 both.   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:14 PM
- - jason   not going to link, but pretty much every thread th...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(jason @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4:16 PM...   Mar 28, 2008 - 3:43 PM
- - Dragondog   I LIVE IN LUBBOCK...........AND IS SLOTTED NOT THE...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:07 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 5:0...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:23 PM
- - Dragondog   LOL I NEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE IN HOUSTON EVERY1 I...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:36 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4:3...   Mar 29, 2008 - 7:30 AM
- - GriffGirl   I'm told these are decent but I don't know...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:43 PM
- - 6_GEN   DONT BUY FROM EBAY!!! THEY WILL CRACK...   Mar 29, 2008 - 8:21 AM
- - Dragondog   200$ SOUNDS GOOD TO ME I WOULD TAKE U UP ON T...   Mar 29, 2008 - 9:59 AM
- - D-Man   actualy, thanks to griff girl, i may be able to ge...   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:12 AM
|- - k-weaver   QUOTE(D-Man @ Mar 29, 2008 - 3...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:07 AM
|- - D-Man   To the best of my knowledge yes, they are compatib...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM
- - Dragondog   when i was web hunting i was looking at those too....   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:29 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 29, 2008 - 10...   Mar 29, 2008 - 11:07 AM
- - Dragondog   ok well im trusting you so hook me then if you can...   Mar 29, 2008 - 11:40 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Mar 29, 2008 - 11...   Mar 29, 2008 - 12:39 PM
- - Dragondog   i c well let me know bout ur boss if so we can tal...   Mar 29, 2008 - 12:46 PM
- - Dragondog   will sway bars work with coilovers? or do i have t...   Mar 29, 2008 - 1:28 PM
- - playr158   slotted rotors only...... d/s = crapola   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:24 AM
- - Dragondog   explain crapola   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:27 AM
- - playr158   its a looks thing pretty much that negatively effe...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:30 AM
- - D-Man   playr, i have to honestly say, that i do like the ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
- - playr158   :lol: I just say what comes from research, race t...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:49 AM
- - brthrurik   I'm running the brakeplanet setup, had it for ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:50 AM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 11:5...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:55 AM
|- - Zelstin   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 10:5...   Apr 1, 2008 - 1:21 PM
|- - brthrurik   QUOTE(Zelstin @ Apr 1, 2008 - 10:21 ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 7:52 PM
|- - Zelstin   QUOTE(brthrurik @ Apr 1, 2008 - 7:52...   Apr 2, 2008 - 8:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 1, 2008 - 11:49...   Apr 1, 2008 - 10:57 AM
- - playr158   yus i haz been on Ricecar forumz :eeps: you know ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 11:01 AM
- - Supersprynt   Um, no. Getting better brake pads and properly br...   Apr 1, 2008 - 8:28 PM
- - markie   i like how the thread originally started off as a ...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(markie @ Apr 2, 2008 - 2:16 PM...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:49 PM
- - markie   QUOTE(D-Man @ Apr 2, 2008 - 1:4...   Apr 4, 2008 - 1:36 PM
- - D-Man   no no, you didnt make a misteak. I just pointed th...   Apr 4, 2008 - 1:53 PM
- - playr158   sorry that last post made me giggle. Rotors: ...   Apr 4, 2008 - 2:03 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 4, 2008 - 12:03...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:33 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:33...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:40 PM
||- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(D-Man @ Apr 4, 2008 - 2:4...   Apr 4, 2008 - 7:17 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 2:33...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:43 PM
- - D-Man   what'd i tell ya It's intended for all ...   Apr 4, 2008 - 3:41 PM
- - DEATH   no comment. He's right about the lighter thing...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:01 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:01 PM)...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:08 PM
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|- - D-Man   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 4, 2008 - 5:15 PM)...   Apr 4, 2008 - 4:21 PM
- - markie   hahaha!! cheers!! thanks guys, thi...   Apr 5, 2008 - 3:03 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Apr 4, 2008 - 8:17...   Apr 6, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - Dragondog   HOW QUICK DOES BREAK PLANET DELIVER IT TO UR DOOR?   Apr 23, 2008 - 4:12 AM
- - playr158   ZOMGZ AS FAST AS A WOODCHUCK COULD CHUCK WOOD...   Apr 23, 2008 - 9:05 AM
- - D-Man   i forgot all about this thread. Ya know... Oh n...   Apr 23, 2008 - 9:16 AM
|- - Edophus   drilled discs are pointless, modern pad compounds ...   Apr 24, 2008 - 5:28 AM
- - Dragondog   EDOP YOU SEEM TO TRY TO SAY THE LAST OF EVERYTHING...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:06 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:0...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:20 AM
- - playr158   yea dragon bro maybe you should just research caus...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:51 AM
- - D-Man   Edouphus you've got some valid points. However...   Apr 25, 2008 - 8:21 AM
- - crandsberry   Sorry if im beating a dead horse , but i am in th...   Apr 25, 2008 - 8:53 AM
- - DEATH   I'm not going to get involved in this arguemen...   Apr 25, 2008 - 9:34 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(crandsberry @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9...   Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39...   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:38 AM
|- - crandsberry   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 9:39...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:36 PM
- - playr158   sorry not yours, you just posted in middle of me t...   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:43 AM
- - D-Man   [/thread] We're never going to agree on this....   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - Dragondog   OK WILL AFTER READING all this i see a point to al...   Apr 25, 2008 - 5:58 PM
- - GriffGirl   It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. ...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:17 PM
- - Edophus   hey i think there is truth in the things most say,...   Apr 25, 2008 - 6:52 PM
- - jason   you need some heat to get them to optimal performa...   Apr 26, 2008 - 12:06 AM
- - crandsberry   great reading material Tech article from Pop. hot...   Apr 26, 2008 - 7:01 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Dragondog @ Apr 25, 2008 - 6:5...   Apr 27, 2008 - 5:54 AM
- - ETNRIDER   I have had my brakes and drilled & slotted rot...   May 2, 2008 - 3:19 PM
- - markie   i love reading this thread.. lol. some great mind...   May 3, 2008 - 9:33 AM
- - Dragondog   ok well after putting on my d/s disks i thought id...   May 31, 2008 - 5:25 AM


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