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post May 7, 2008 - 10:31 PM
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So before i got the celica (puma cubed) i had this badass VW passat (puma squared) that I LOVED. It was a '94 vr6 GLX. Ugly as hell but a legend around my neighborhood. Anyway i had a twin loop muffler installed and it sounded awesome. VR6 engine + twin loop catback = pure sex. my question is whether a 5sfe would respond well to a twin loop too. I know its not the best flow but its a less obnoxious exhaust and some back pressure is actually good for performance.

my other question involves the cold air intake im about to finish. So far I only have a short ram w/o a heatshield but i will be running to the fender within the week. Just how much will this do for my engine? will it feel exactly the same as my short ram or will I actually get a benefit? response? peppier? more torque???

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post May 14, 2008 - 10:32 AM
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3sgteluke,

My experience has been with both drop-in, modifying stock box, short ram, CAI and Ram air intakes on the 5sfe. It terms of butt dyno the power gains go from least to most

By the butt/feel dyno the power diff you will notice is miniscule between CAI and SRI - the BIG thing you will notice is heatsoak/sluggishness off the line between SRI and CAI. SRI in my experience is more sluggish off the line until air gets flowing through the engine bay whereas the CAI has less of a sluggish response. (CAI only has to clear warm air in tube to get rid of sluggishness. Ram air works quite well though off the line response is less than SRI/CAI once you get some air flowing it really starts to shine.

In regards to to the exhaust I went with a straight exhaust with race muffler 2.5" - this was too big with the 5s as alot of low end torque was sacrificed for minimal gains up top. I think 2.5" exhaust with the twin loop would be a much better setup without the ricer fart can sound - though twin loops sound a little strained at the upper rpm range.

With the reground cams you will lose the low end torque of the 5sfe and move it farter up into the mid rpm range - great improvement in 3rd gear.

Though as with any info given on forumns - take it with a grain of salt as alot of misinformation is given - I am only providing you a description of my experience.

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Posts in this topic
- 3sgteLuke   Questions on CAI benefits for 5sfe and twin loop mufflers   May 7, 2008 - 10:31 PM
- - 3sgteLuke   -_- no one has anything to say?   May 8, 2008 - 9:19 PM
- - bccentaur3   Sorry bro. But I highly doubt you will feel any di...   May 8, 2008 - 9:23 PM
- - massbrandon   The CAI will not do much for you except give you a...   May 9, 2008 - 7:37 AM
- - stephen_lee   honestly i had a CAI and just the K&N cone on ...   May 12, 2008 - 11:04 PM
- - 3sgteLuke   so what about the twin loop exhaust?   May 13, 2008 - 2:03 PM
- - D-Man   Personally, anything that downs performance: in or...   May 13, 2008 - 2:15 PM
- - Supersprynt   A what? Whats a twin loop exhaust?   May 13, 2008 - 2:19 PM
- - D-Man   it has hoses at the end of an exhaust (usually in ...   May 13, 2008 - 2:23 PM
- - rjbibeau   that alone has to give ya like 75hp   May 13, 2008 - 6:14 PM
- - 3sgteLuke   wow sorry i asked, really don't appreciate the...   May 13, 2008 - 10:51 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (3sgteLuke @ May 13, 2008 - 10...   May 14, 2008 - 9:10 AM
- - stephen_lee   go ahead and try it man. its worth a try!   May 14, 2008 - 8:47 AM
- - _mikeE   bolt on mods don't do much for our cars---our ...   May 14, 2008 - 9:45 AM
- - Terracar   3sgteluke, My experience has been with both drop-...   May 14, 2008 - 10:32 AM
- - 3sgteLuke   heatsoak is what i was thinking too since my short...   May 14, 2008 - 12:57 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (3sgteLuke @ May 14, 2008 - 12...   May 14, 2008 - 1:09 PM
- - GriffGirl   you can't change your name, unless the new for...   May 14, 2008 - 1:57 PM
- - 3sgteLuke   i'm too much of a broke ass college student fo...   May 14, 2008 - 9:46 PM


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