Manual to Power Windows/Locks Conversion, REALLY CLOSE NOW! Need help, see pg 5 Options

[GriffGirl]

I will be undertaking my manual to power windows and locks conversion soon! yay! So in preparation for it, if anyone has a wild hair and is willing to take some pictures of their power setup for me, I would very much appreciate it. Here's what I need:

- pix of behind the door panel so I can see where the rail, motor and lock actuator bolt on
- pix of how the wiring harness is run along that same inside part of the door, up to where the rubber thingie goes into the panel by the door hinge
- pix or description of where the harness comes out after run into the above mentioned panel
- if possible, pix of where the other end of the wiring harness connects to. (back of fuse box under kickpanel?) If pix are too difficult, a description of where this thing goes would be great!
- pix of the door lock relay. I know it's somewhere under the dash, down by the gas pedal. That's all I know. Same goes - if pix are too difficult, a description of what this plugs into.

I'm visually oriented, so please use "landmarks" in any descriptions, and colors, i.e. "next to the gas pedal, above the hump and near the white connector" or whatever.

Thanks so much! I'll follow up with a how-to w/photos when I do the conversion.

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Feb 26, 2010 - 2:28 AM

[GriffGirl]

Okay - I've made good progress. I've wired in the loom and have figured out where to plug in the "socket" that has the pink wires running from it (speaker, mirror, etc. I think). There's another socket - probably the actual one for the window motor. I can't see where this plugs in though; there was one wiring harness that had nothing attached to it already in the car, and the new harness plugged in just fine to that. But that one "t's" off - one end plugs into the wiring harness that runs to the door, the other end (the homeless end) must plug in somewhere under the dash to draw power. WHERE?

I hope this makes sense. The one I'm speaking of has IIRC a blue connector, or little blue clippy things on two of the wires, like they're there to mark something. It's written in Japanese though. I only speak "american." (LOL)

Still haven't found where the door relay actually plugs in, or rather what plugs into it, but your photos make perfect sense to me and I'm just going to keep looking.

Looks like I just might have power windows (at least) by the end of the night! Woohoo!

[BloodyStupidDave...]

There's another socket - probably the actual one for the window motor. I can't see where this plugs in though;

IIRC, the window motor has a short wire coming out of it. I Don't recall whether it has a plug on the window motor itself and then an extension lead or whether the wires just come out of the motor through a grommet. But either way I am 99% sure the other end of that short wire is the connector you see behind the film in the last photo above.

there was one wiring harness that had nothing attached to it already in the car, and the new harness plugged in just fine to that. But that one "t's" off - one end plugs into the wiring harness that runs to the door, the other end (the homeless end) must plug in somewhere under the dash to draw power. WHERE?

I'm not sure I understand the above. Some pictures would help. But I think you are saying that the body harness that you have the door loom plugged into is Y shaped or possibly 3 branches go into one trunk. You are looking for things to plug into the connectors on the other branches?

The bit of the door loom that ends in the body of the car should have two connectors. This should be the case for both the passenger and the driver door looms. I would expect your car's body loom to have matching connectors unused behind the kick panels so should be just a case of plugging the door looms into the body loom on each side. If this is the case, the body loom will already have all the wires connected (power and otherwise) and all you'll need to do is fit any missing relays and fuses.

The one I'm speaking of has IIRC a blue connector, or little blue clippy things on two of the wires, like they're there to mark something. It's written in Japanese though. I only speak "american." (LOL)

Do you have a picture of this?

Still haven't found where the door relay actually plugs in, or rather what plugs into it, but your photos make perfect sense to me and I'm just going to keep looking.

Try taking out your shifter cover, upper center console cover, radio and aircon. You sould clearly be able to see the wiring loom running down the inside edge of the center console from the very top of the dashboard to the shifter mechanism and handbrake. On my RHD car, it runs down the right-hand-side. I don't know whether that will be reversed for you on not (probably). If you follow that loom, you'll find several branches along its route. It starts off about 3/4" thick at the top and by the time it gets to the handbrake it is only 2 or three wires. At about where your radio goes, you should find a short branch ending in that big orange, grey or white plug. It may well be taped up, covered in sticky-back foam or otherwise tucked out of the way.

[GriffGirl]

there was one wiring harness that had nothing attached to it already in the car, and the new harness plugged in just fine to that. But that one "t's" off - one end plugs into the wiring harness that runs to the door, the other end (the homeless end) must plug in somewhere under the dash to draw power. WHERE?

I'm not sure I understand the above. Some pictures would help. But I think you are saying that the body harness that you have the door loom plugged into is Y shaped or possibly 3 branches go into one trunk. You are looking for things to plug into the connectors on the other branches?

The bit of the door loom that ends in the body of the car should have two connectors. This should be the case for both the passenger and the driver door looms. I would expect your car's body loom to have matching connectors unused behind the kick panels so should be just a case of plugging the door looms into the body loom on each side. If this is the case, the body loom will already have all the wires connected (power and otherwise) and all you'll need to do is fit any missing relays and fuses.

Yes - this one of the two of these is the connectors I'm speaking of that seems to have nowhere to be plugged in. One of the connectors has some pink and purple wires (among others) coming from it - this one is probably the connector that wires the speaker, tweeter, little red light (you call it a puddle light I believe) and the annoying "Door is Ajar" chime. This one has a place to plug in. The other connector contains mainly blue wires coming from it (among others) and is clearly the connector that powers the window and probably the mirrors as well. I've searched and searched and have not been able to find anywhere to plug it in. For that matter, I can't find any available sockets to speak of whatsoever. I'm starting to think my car just doesn't have it - which means a trip to a wrecking yard after work today to try to locate the left and right side looms to connect these to. Otherwise this whole thing is basically a miserable failure. And I refuse to accept that.

Still haven't found where the door relay actually plugs in, or rather what plugs into it, but your photos make perfect sense to me and I'm just going to keep looking.

Try taking out your shifter cover, upper center console cover, radio and aircon. You sould clearly be able to see the wiring loom running down the inside edge of the center console from the very top of the dashboard to the shifter mechanism and handbrake. On my RHD car, it runs down the right-hand-side. I don't know whether that will be reversed for you on not (probably). If you follow that loom, you'll find several branches along its route. It starts off about 3/4" thick at the top and by the time it gets to the handbrake it is only 2 or three wires. At about where your radio goes, you should find a short branch ending in that big orange, grey or white plug. It may well be taped up, covered in sticky-back foam or otherwise tucked out of the way.

I'll try doing this tonight - I got so caught up in trying to figure out the window motor connector deal that it was dark before I could get to the issue of the relay. I'm willing to bet that relay is behind my stereo somewhere. I've taken that thing apart enough times at this point that I remember there being "extra" plug-thingies back there, I bet one of them plugs into the relay. I'm not so concerned about this right now.

Question - currently the position of the window motor is in the "up" position. This has effectively rendered me completely unable to actually secure the window glass in. Scary business. Is there a way to "force" the motor to slide down (without damaging the motor) so I can actually connect the window safely?